The defaults for a relax_disp.cpmg_setup could be:

relax_disp.cpmg_setup(spectrum_id=None, cpmg_frq=None, ncyc_even=True)

This can then be expanded in the future for special CPMG dispersion
experiment types (CW decoupling vs. pi pulses, etc.) where the numeric
model would require changes.

Regards,

Edward



On 4 May 2014 11:53, Edward d'Auvergne <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry, that was a bad typo, it should be Flemming Hansen's dispersion
> pulse sequence!
>
> On 4 May 2014 11:52, Edward d'Auvergne <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> It depends on the pulse sequence.  Here is one I found written by
>> Flemming Hanser where you can use odd numbers:
>>
>> http://nmrwiki.org/psdb/kaylab/vnmrsys/psglib/CaHD_cpmg_GLY_dfh_600_v1.c
>>
>> Look for the comment:
>>
>> "ncyc can be either even or odd :)"
>>
>> Such sequences are probably in the minority though.  Anyway, maybe we
>> need a new user function.  It would be good to have a series of user
>> functions for specifying the experimental information.  We already
>> have that with:
>>
>> spectrometer.frequency
>> relax_disp.exp_type
>> relax_disp.relax_time
>> relax_disp.cpmg_frq
>>
>> So keeping along these lines, maybe we need to have a
>> relax_disp.cpmg_even_ncyc user function?  Or we rename
>> relax_disp.cpmg_frq to relax_disp.cpmg_setup and have that user
>> function reserved for all CPMG pulse sequence info?  What do you
>> think?  Renaming user functions does require a relax minor version
>> number change though, so introducing it before relax 3.2.0 is a good
>> idea.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Edward
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 May 2014 11:24, Troels Emtekær Linnet <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Edward.
>>>
>>> The number of CPMG blocks has to be an even number.
>>>
>>> I remember this clearly, since I once did an CPMG experiment, with
>>> some ncycs equal 4, 10, 15, 20, 25, ...
>>>
>>> And the intensities for all eksperiments with odd NCYC number was horrible.
>>>
>>> Kaare told me, that ncycs always has to be even.
>>> That was something that Mikael Akke also have insisted on.
>>>
>>> But that day, I could not easily find it in the literature, so I left
>>> it and accepted just another fact of NMR.
>>>
>>> And when I did the interpolated graphs with an odd-number of NCYC,
>>> that looked weirdo.
>>> Sig-saw all over the place.
>>>
>>> I actually think it could be a input check in relax, warning the user
>>> if the number of CPMG blocks are not equal?
>>>
>>> And, I would be very happy to find it in the literature. :-)
>>> Have you ever come around this?
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Troels
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-04 11:06 GMT+02:00 Edward d  Auvergne
>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>> Follow-up Comment #2, bug #22008 (project relax):
>>>>
>>>> If this is a restriction of only the B14 analytic CPMG model
>>>> (http://wiki.nmr-relax.com/B14), it would be best if only the B14 is 
>>>> affected.
>>>>  There is no need to restrict the numeric models based on the artificial
>>>> limitation of an unrelated model.  Maybe the best solution would be to 
>>>> check
>>>> if the model is B14, and if so skip odd interpolation points?
>>>>
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>>>>
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