On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 12:45:22AM -0700, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Monday 12 November 2007, Torsten Rahn wrote: > > On Sunday 11 November 2007, Torsten Rahn wrote: > > > of course, our show stoppers themselves are somewhat funny (as in "they > > > smell funny ... ") since last time i looked we did no have anything about > > > the keyboard shortcuts control panel not working at all (though this has > > > had the side effect of getting me used to the kde defaults again ;) while > > > we do have some pretty minor showstoppers. > > > > Well, last time I checked the default style didn't support QToolBox yet. > > This basically rendered Marble unusable as people are not able to make use > > of the interface. > > heh.. indeed. or menus. ;) > > > > i'm dangerously close to having resizable and movable panels. they'll be > > > done this week. multiple panels are there, xrandr works, xinerama works. > > > taskbar and systray both need bugfixes; i wont get to working on those > > > until next week, however. (i figure i only need 2 days to get the panel > > > stuff done, which means it'll take a week ;). > > > > So do I understand it correctly that you think that Plasma will have sorted > > out all remaining issues that are left for an RC1 only until next > > wednesday? Sounds good to me. > > wednesday the 21st? the showstopers will be, yes. > > > > > involved with the last few showstoppers when those showstoppers will be > > > > fixed. Based on that we should decide how to proceed. I remember that > > > > this was done for earlier releases. It helped to make people commit > > > > themselves to get the release out of the door soon while at the same > > > > time making sure that we'd adhere to our quality standards. > > > > > > this makes more sense to me: a ballance between "well, let's just slip > > > the date without putting any pressure on our work schedule" and "let's > > > stick to the schedule regardless of what we've accomplished". > > > > Balance is always good. But it needs to be based on criteria. The only > > agreed; let's get started on exactly what you noted. i'm too tired at this > point in the night (it's nearly 1am here =) but would love to help with this > in the daytime... > > > > we should really strive to make a december release if at all possible > > > (for so many reasons which we've gone over so many times now), and that > > > may well mean a big final push. > > > > I'd love to see a release being tagged right before christmas. But I'd hate > > to receive a release from Santa where you get the feel that the QA Santa > > dwarves were on Christmas holidays already concerning the most basic > > functionality. :-) > > lol =) agreed .. i'm just saying if we press ourselves a bit, we may surprise > ourselves ... or at least avoid slipagitis taking over completely. >
Also, allowing our deadlines not to slip actually gets people moving, i.e. the KConfig breakage that happened after we were supposed to be frozen because people said "oh shit! I didn't get X, Y, and Z done for KDE 4.0 and now I have to wait until KDE 5.0". We need some sense of urgency in order to get ourselves off our asses and get this stuff done. -- Matt _______________________________________________ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team