Mike Schutt wrote:
What you call a "demonstration" and "a fact", I call an unsupported assertion. The mere fact that Moses, or whoever wrote on his behalf, claimed that the laws came from God is no more compelling an argument than the fact that Mesha, king of the Moabites, said the same thing about the laws he allegedly got from Chemosh. More importantly, as I said, most of those laws not only don't form the basis of our laws, they would be entirely forbidden as laws under our Constitution. The fact is that we could explain and trace the reasoning for virtually every provision in the Constitution without ever once referencing the bible or "judeo-christian" tradition or theology. Take away the theological references, and nothing much changes in the Constitution. This hardly seems a compelling case for such traditions being the basis of our system of government. No, I did not point out that those parts of the Ten Commandments that cannot be civil law should still be considered "moral law". I may agree, on different grounds, that adultery is immoral (and I do), but that does not mean that this constitutes "moral law", and it certainly doesn't mean that civil laws should be "based on, modeled after, and in conformance with" this "moral law". In fact, I strongly disagree with that position. Again, all of those prohibitions found in the ten commandments could never have existed, and it would not change our civil and criminal law in the slightest. Indeed, even without the few commandments that do find analogs in our civil law, the laws would still be the same simply because prohibitions against murder and theft are universal in nature and found in every non-biblical legal or ethical system as well. Ed Brayton |
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