Where the class happens to fall in the course catalog, in one sense, does
seem completely irrelevant.  But the reason why we have this fight is
because whether ID is taught as science or something else will determine
whether it is taught as true.  If it's taught outside of science class, it
will likely be taught from a purely descriptive point of view: this is how
ID movement historically developed, it had these progenitors, it was
motivated by these concerns, etc.  But if it is taught as science, however,
then it will be taught as true (or at least as a strong candidate for being
true).  That's why Dover wanted this in the science curriculum, and why Dr.
Mirecki (no friend of ID) wanted it taught in a religious-studies class.

Whether it's being taught in science or religious-studies class, I think, is
just a proxy for whether it's being taught descriptively or as true.  I
would assume that nothing of substance would change if Dover moved the
discussion of ID into a religion class, but then there tried to teach ID as
true -- but do others disagree?

Chris


On Dec 21, 2005, at 11:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The Dover case has me so confused that I can’t see what its implications are beyond its narrow facts. A couple of questions came to mind as I read it. Maybe someone can help me sort them out.

1. One of the attorneys for the plaintiffs said last night on one of the news shows that “all this” (ID) would be fine if relegated to a class on “comparative religion” or philosophy. Why should the ostensible subject matter or title of a class make any difference? The case wasn’t about policing the content of science classes but rather the establishment clause. It seems like it ought not matter which door the establishment effort enters. What am I missing here?


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