I happen to agree with Ed Brayton that tolerance does not mean immunity from 
criticism, but I'm guessing many or most people would not.

But what does one call lecturing the Church on its own teachings?  Or the 
assertion that its theology, grounded in 2000 years of teaching, is simply an 
"ugly political agenda"?  Or telling the Church what is a matter of faith and 
what is not?

Richard Dougherty





---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Ed Brayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>
Date:  Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:04:35 -0500

>Rick Duncan wrote:
>
>> So Mr. Brayton agrees with the HRC that the Catholic faith--at least 
>> on the issue of marriage and family--is "shameful" and "ugly" and 
>> "serves absolutely no higher purpose."
>
>
>I don't think this is a reasonable restatement of what the HRC said or 
>what I said I agreed with. They did not say that "the Catholic faith" 
>was shameful and ugly and serves no higher purpose, they said that this 
>particular decision was. That is something I agree with. Like any large 
>religion, there are many things to admire and many things to condemn and 
>pretending that all criticism amounts to a condemnation of the entire 
>faith is simply not reasonable.
>
>>  
>> Our zones of tolerance just don't overlap.
>
>
>I don't think this has anything at all to do with tolerance. Tolerance 
>does not mean immunity from criticism.
>
>Ed Brayton
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