There's much to Marty's post, but let me probe this: Why is endorsement "of the idea that 'Jesus died for you on the cross' is within the range of speech that is relevant and appropriate for a graduation ceremony" -- even if that's not an endorsement of the truth of the matter -- a violation of the Establishment Clause? (Let's set aside the related but not identical question of whether restricting such speech would be permissible even if the speech doesn't violate the Establishment Clause.)
Wouldn't that be quite a substantial extension of the endorsement test, and a rather dangerous one? Consider religious speech that the government is allowed to include in many contexts -- religious paintings in government-run museums, musically significant religious songs as part of a choral repertoire in a government-run school, students' choices of religiously themed presentations in high school or college classes where the instructor gives students to choose their own topic (religious or not) from a wide range of topics. I take it that this is permitted precisely that there's no "endorsement of the truth of the matter," and without such endorsement, the government's inclusion of the speech isn't treated as an unconstitutional endorsement. Yet in each instance, one can say that the government's inclusion or toleration of the religious message is "endorsement of the idea that [include the relevant religious message here] is within the range of speech that is relevant and appropriate for a [museum / choral program / classroom presentation]." After all, I suspect that in many such programs, the government would exclude some messages as inappropriate; a program featuring community artists may well exclude the community's KKK members' art on the theme of "why blacks are inferior." Yet I take it that we'd think the program may still include a religious member's variation on the Madonna and Child, or for that matter on Christ dying on the cross, if the government actors running the program think the work is well-executed. Am I mistaken? Is there a robust distinction between these scenarios that would explain why the government's allowing the religious speech as part of the valedictorian's choice is an Establishment Clause violation, and the government's allowing the religious speech in the art exhibition is not, despite its endorsement of the idea that such speech is appropriate in a community art exhibition? Or is it that the government must exclude religious speech even from the other contexts? Eugene Marty Lederman writes: In other words, this isn't like Speaker's Corner, or some other public forum, and never will be. Thus, there's no getting over the problem of endorsement. If a school would forbid the speaker from leading cheers for the re-election of the President, or for the electoral prospects of Hillary Clinton, or would ask a student to apologize for condemning persons of a particular religion, but would permit the speaker to say that "Jesus died for you on the cross," there is at least a modest sense of endorsement: Not endorsement of the truth of the matter, mind you, but endorsement of the idea that "Jesus died for you on the cross" is within the range of speech that is relevant and appropriate for a graduation ceremony. My personal view is that if the school did accept such a statement as appropriate -- or, e.g., accepted as appropriate the statement "Jesus is a scam" or "women have a religious duty to stay at home" or [you can fill in the blanks with your favorite hypo] -- it would be an Establishment Clause violation, albeit not the most important one of all time. My quick 'n' easy rule of thumb is that specifically religious speech can be treated no better than political speech, or else there's a possible Establishment Clause problem. And if it's treated no worse than such political speech, there's certainly no Free Speech problem. _______________________________________________ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.