Michael Hout and Claude Fischer at Berkely report a number of
studies with similar results, showing that people reporting no
religious preference doubled from 7% to 14% in the 90s.  Why More
Americans Have No Religious Preference: Politics and Generations, 67
Am. Soc. Rev. 165 (2002).  Tweaking the data, they find that some of
the difference is a difference between the young adult generation and
the recently deceased generation, and that part of the difference is
people with weak religious affiliations now reporting none. This
second group is entirely confined to political liberals and
moderates; these appear to be people who do not want to report
themselves as religious because to them, conservative Christians have
given all religion a bad name.

 The Baylor study may have picked up a small reversal of trend, or
it may have asked a slightly different question. 

 Quoting Newsom Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I wonder if there is a "surge" of people reporting no religion. 
The
Baylor study -- an extraordinary piece of social science work --
that
came out a year ago shows that 89.2% of Americans have a religious
affiliation, and of the remaining 10.8%, the study characterizes
them as
"persons without a religious preference, denomination, or place of
worship."  One cannot fairly say that the unaffiliated necessarily
have
no religion, for it is possible to be an unaffiliated Christian,
and
even if one could say that the unaffiliated have no religion, how
is
10.8% a "surge?"  It would seem to me that to be a "surge" one
would
have to have good data that showed, for example, that 25 years ago,
the
"unaffiliated" constituted something under 5 or 6% of the American
people.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that the "unaffiliated" have
been
around for a long time in the United States, and in numbers not
that far
removed from 10.8%.

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Some Christians proselytize; some don't.  Same with atheists.

There is clearly a hostile secular reaction to evangelical activism
and
political influence; it is visible in our politics and in some of
the
resistance to free exercise claims, and it shows up statistically
in a
surge of people reporting no religion in surveys about religious
belief.  It's not a reaction to the Christian Reconstructionists,
who
are numerically trivial.  But many of the folks having the reaction
can't tell the difference between the conservative values voters
and
the Christian Reconstructionists.

The mission is a central religious experience in Mormonism. What
Fred
Gedicks described is the social understanding of the faith.  The
reality of any religion lies not in formal doctrine but in the
social
understanding, practices, and lived experience of its faithful. 
That
smart people on this list can doubt whether the Mormon mission is
religious dramatically illustrates what is wrong with the
compelled/motivated distinction.

I agree -- and have testified -- that the religious motivation must
be
substantial or primary and not just lurking in the background
somewhere.  That means the resulting line is one of degree and not
a
bright line.  But to say the Mormon mission is not distinguishable
from
any other reason for taking a year off is like saying that because
1
isn't much different from 2, and 2 isn't much different from 3, and
so
on -- that 1 is indistinguishable from 100 or a hundred trillion or
any
other number.

Douglas Laycock
Yale Kamisar Collegiate Professor of Law
University of Michigan Law School
625 S. State St.
Ann Arbor, MI  48109-1215
  734-647-9713

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