It seems to me that the answer to whether Jewishness is "religious" or "ethnic" changes according to the moment's convenience, to the frustration of those who find we are "Jewish" enough for any REAL anti-semites, but not for "the" Jews.
Wm. Linden "First-degree mongrel" under the Nuremberg Laws. > It seems to me that discrimination based on being Jewish > under traditional religious rules is both religious > discrimination and ethnicity discrimination. I'm Jewish by > birth (i.e., my mother, and my mother's mother, were > Jewish, though they weren't religious) but not religious. > Under the traditional religious rules, I'm Jewish, with no > need for a difficult conversion process. My wife is not > Jewish by birth, so while she could become Jewish under the > traditional religious rules, this would require a difficult > conversion process. So the exclusion of people who are > neither born Jewish nor converted to Judaism is > discrimination based both on ethnicity and religion. > > Eugene > > From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu > [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Vance R. Koven > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:19 AM > To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics > Subject: Re: UK Jewish school denies racial discrimination - Yahoo! News > > Indeed. And in order to uphold the racial discrimination charge, does the > court have to rule that the mother is not, in fact, Jewish, because > Judaism is defined under British law as an ethnic group rather than a > religion? That, it seems to me, is the principal error here. If the father > had converted to Christianity instead of the mother to Judaism, would it > still be racial discrimination to keep the boy out? > > Vance > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Joel Sogol > <jlsa...@wwisp.com<mailto:jlsa...@wwisp.com>> wrote: > So who decides the criteria for being Jewish? The court or the Rabbi? > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091027/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_jewish_school > > > > Joel Sogol > > > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to > Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu<mailto:Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are > posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or > wrongly) forward the messages to others. > > > > -- > Vance R. Koven > Boston, MA USA > vrko...@world.std.com<mailto:vrko...@world.std.com> > _______________________________________________ > To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see > http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw > > Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as > private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are > posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or > wrongly) forward the messages to others. _______________________________________________ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as private. Anyone can subscribe to the list and read messages that are posted; people can read the Web archives; and list members can (rightly or wrongly) forward the messages to others.