I appreciate Sandy’s point, but I ask again: Doesn’t this counsel against a Title VII duty of reasonable accommodation? After all, once you put a jury in a position of applying a standard as mushy as “reasonable accommodation” or “undue hardship” of religion, wouldn’t it be especially likely that the jurors – even if they are entirely well-intentioned – will be swayed by their sympathy or antipathy to the religious belief (or the broader ideological perspective that the belief exemplifies)? One could ask the same about government decisionmakers that have to predict what juries will do, or for that matter try to decide in good faith their own legal obligations.
This can’t be the only such case, or the only such fact pattern. What can we say more broadly about Title VII reasonable accommodation law, and whether it’s a good or bad idea, by thinking through cases such as this one? Eugene From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Sanford Levinson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:40 PM To: 'religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu' Subject: Re: "Settlement or extortion?" and antidiscrimination law (and tort law) more generally Art is certainly on to something, but I would emphasize the extreme unlikelihood that most Texas communities would make the same settlement if the plaintiff had put a pro-choice message on his/her desk. To put it mildly, "neutral principles" does not seem to be the mantra of most Texas politicos. (I write as someone who helped the ACLU get $8000 in attorney fees for my pro bono defense of the Klan in a standard access-to-march case that the City of Austin chose to litigate.) Sandy ________________________________ From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu <religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu> To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> Sent: Tue Apr 26 12:15:26 2011 Subject: Re: "Settlement or extortion?" and antidiscrimination law (and tort law) more generally Eugene asks, "What is it about this particular case that triggers people not just to complain about the plaintiff’s position, but to call his and his lawyers’ actions 'extortion?'" I think the actual answer is quite simple, and has nothng to do with legal theories. People are not upset when people with whom they sympathize get settlements for legally marginal claims; they are upset when people with whom they do not sympathize get settlements for legally marginal claims. I think the people who labeled the lawsuit in this case extortion would not call it extortion if a woman were fired by a private employer for displaying a pro-choice bumper sticker on her desk, and she sued for wrongful discharge, and the employer's insurance company settled for $21,000, even though the law of the relevant state was very unlikely to support the woman's claim. Call me cynical. Art Spitzer On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Volokh, Eugene <vol...@law.ucla.edu<mailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu>> wrote: Here’s one thing that has puzzled me about the “settlement or extortion?” thread. Many critics of tort law and employment law – largely conservatives and libertarians – have long argued that our legal system often leads to unmeritorious claims being settled to avoid risk and to save litigation costs. If Walter Olson (author of Litigation Explosion, which criticized American tort law, and Excuse Factory, which criticized American employment law) were here, he’d probably say something like this: 1. The Title VII reasonable accommodation requirement embodies a deliberately vague “undue hardship” / “reasonable accommodation” standard for liability. (Justice Scalia might cheer him on, making his “rule of law as the law of rules” argument.) This is an open invitation to disagreement among the parties about what the law requires, and to unpredictable jury decisionmaking. 2. Our legal system has overgenerous discovery provisions, which make litigation more expensive. 3. Courts have interpreted Title VII to provide asymmetrical fee-shifting, so that losing employers must pay prevailing plaintiffs’ attorney fees, but losing plaintiffs almost never have to pay the prevailing employers’ attorney fees. Compared to either the system the reformers often prefer, which is loser pays, or to our normal American Rule of no fee-shifting, this asymmetrical system creates a further incentive for plaintiffs to bring weak claims, and for employers to settle such claims. We’ve been shouting about this for decades, Olson might say, but the legal establishment – and especially liberals – have largely condemned and rejected our arguments. What is it about this particular case that triggers people not just to complain about the plaintiff’s position, but to call his and his lawyers’ actions “extortion”? And unless we come up with some special rule that’s unfavorable to people with objections to abortion, shouldn’t we think more broadly about whether our system is broken, and about whether we should cut back on the scope of liability, the vagueness of liability, the procedures that make litigation costly, and the incentives to bring weak claims? 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