The alternative is to focus on what is in the best interests of the child, 
e.g., education, health.  Not being forced to
get married at 13 and have children...   

Marci


The religious status quo could also be a non-observant or explicitly atheistic 
r agnostic household, which would also have to be respected under the rule that 
ugene supports. The alternative is for the courts to determine which religions 
re "extremist," a questionable role for the judiciary. 
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Subject: RE: Mothers leaving ultra-religious groups, and religious upbringing 
as a factor in custody disputes


The religious status quo could also be a non-observant or explicitly atheistic 
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ugene supports. The alternative is for the courts to determine which religions 
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ubject: Re: Mothers leaving ultra-religious groups, and religious upbringing as 
 factor in custody disputes
I don't think it is a difficult question but disagree that the rule is sound.   
he standard should be the best interest of the child.  Stability in an 
xtremist religion is often not in the child's best interest, especially if the 
hild is a girl.   
or example, the FLDS.  The best interest of the child can also trump mainstream 
eligions depending on the facts of the case.  The focus must be the child.
This sort of assumption that religious status quo is a social good is an 
nconstitutional preference for religion.
his is a good example of when the application of a neutral generally applicable 
rinciple can serve the greater good more directly than a religious preference.
Marci
Marci A. Hamilton
aul R. Verkuil Chair in Public Law
enjamin N. Cardozo School of Law
eshiva University
ew York, NY 10003
On Apr 20, 2012, at 9:09 AM, "Volokh, Eugene" <vol...@law.ucla.edu> wrote:
> There's an interesting op-ed at 
> http://blog.nj.com/njv_guest_blog/2012/04/among_nj_orthodox_jewish_women.html 
hat faults the child custody law preference for stability of religious 
pbringing:  When women leave arranged marriages in the ultra-Orthodox Jewish 
ommunity -- and leave ultra-Orthodoxy more general -- they may sometimes lose 
ustody of their children on the grounds that the person who remains within the 
ommunity is more able to provide stability of religious upbringing.  
 
 I'm inclined to say that this rule (which of course could equally apply to 
athers who leave a religious community as well, though I don't know how 
elatively frequent such departures are) is a sound one, for children who are 
ld enough to have some experience with the religion and thus some stake in 
tability of religious upbringing.  To be sure, the rule does create some 
ressure against departing the faith, since often someone who leaves the group 
an no longer raise the children in the same religious environment even if she's 
illing to, because the group might no longer accept her; but this seems in this 
ituation to be an acceptable and denominationally neutral rule (especially if 
t is equally applied to a parent who moves into a ultra-religious community 
hich disrupts the stability of the children's nonreligious, or only mildly 
eligious, upbringing).  But I still thought I'd mention the op-ed, in case 
eople think it's a difficult and interesting question.  
 
 Eugene
 
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