you want to be my agent? (or will the bearded non-cop who is a cop be the "agent"
************************************************* Paul Finkelman, Ph.D. President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law Albany Law School 80 New Scotland Avenue Albany, NY 12208 518-445-3386 (p) 518-445-3363 (f) paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu<mailto:paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu> www.paulfinkelman.com<http://www.paulfinkelman.com> ************************************************* ________________________________ From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] on behalf of Arthur Spitzer [artspit...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:05 PM To: Paul Finkelman; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Report: NYPD fires Orthodox Jew recruit for refusing to trim beard I'm calling the screenwriters guild ASAP. On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Paul Finkelman <paul.finkel...@yahoo.com<mailto:paul.finkel...@yahoo.com>> wrote: I think you are right, which makes me wonder about this case; also you would think the recruit would have been told about the beard policy at the beginning of his training; but hey, maybe this is an elaborate scheme to make him a cop who can really go underground as a guy who is mad at the police? ---- Paul Finkelman President William McKinley Distinguished Professor of Law Albany Law School 80 New Scotland Avenue Albany, NY 12208 518-445-3386<tel:518-445-3386> (p) 518-445-3363<tel:518-445-3363> (f) paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu<mailto:paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu> www.paulfinkelman.com<http://www.paulfinkelman.com> ________________________________ From: Arthur Spitzer <artspit...@gmail.com<mailto:artspit...@gmail.com>> To: "b...@jmcenter.org<mailto:b...@jmcenter.org>" <b...@jmcenter.org<mailto:b...@jmcenter.org>>; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu<mailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:44 PM Subject: Re: Report: NYPD fires Orthodox Jew recruit for refusing to trim beard You'd think the NYPD would want at least one officer who would have the ability to go undercover in the large NYC bearded orthodox Jewish community. Art Spitzer On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:29 PM, b...@jmcenter.org<mailto:b...@jmcenter.org> <b...@jmcenter.org<mailto:b...@jmcenter.org>> wrote: Joel, I'm not clear what your point is other than an Orthodox Jew was fired because he did not follow regulations. The article that you linked states: "Today there are at least two dozen Orthodox-Jewish police officers working for the NYPD." However, it doesn't mention whether any of those police officers have beards longer than 1mm (which is very short). It would seem to me that if NYPD regulations were enforced as to them, then you have an Employment Div. v. Smith -- neutral rules of general applicability situation. If the regulations weren't enforced as to some or all of the two dozen current police officers, then a number of claims may be available to the fired academy individual for wrongful termination. Bob Ritter Jefferson Madison Center for Religious Liberty A Project of the Law Office of Robert V. Ritter Falls Church, VA 703-533-0236 On June 10, 2012 at 5:54 AM Joel Sogol <jlsa...@wwisp.com<mailto:jlsa...@wwisp.com>> wrote: An Orthodox Jew who was weeks away from becoming a New York City police officer said he has been kicked out of the police academy for refusing to trim his beard. Former recruit Fishel Litzman of Monsey was fired Friday after multiple confrontations with the department over the length of his whiskers, he told the Daily News<http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/hasidic-nypd-recruit-fired-beard-article-1.1092499>. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/10/12148224-report-nypd-fires-orthodox-jew-recruit-for-refusing-to-trim-beard?lite Joel L. 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