i am not sure; my point is this that Hobby Lobby is NOT about individuals it is
about a company. I agree with Doug (and probably every on this list) that the
owners of Hobby should have religious liberty to avoid doing some things (but I
believe that is true for Smith in the Oregon case). My point is that Hobby
Lobby is a corporation and not a person and so it has no -- zero -- rights of
religious liberty. It should be required to act according to the law, the same
as any other corporation. For profit corporations (as opposed to an
not-for-profit religious corporation) are not people so I simply disagree that
their owners are free to act in the way Doug wishes.
So, in that sense, I think Doug's position has to be that the corporation
somehow has a religious liberty. I am not buying it.
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From: "Volokh, Eugene" <vol...@law.ucla.edu>
To: Paul Finkelman <paul.finkel...@yahoo.com>; Law & Religion issues for Law
Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>; Douglas Laycock
<dlayc...@virginia.edu>; "Scarberry, Mark" <mark.scarbe...@pepperdine.edu>
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 7:11 PM
Subject: RE: On a different strand of the seamless web
Paul: Are you seriously claiming that Doug believes a
corporation has a soul? Or even that he believes it is a person (the singular
of “people”) in the lay sense of the word “person,” as opposed to the
Dictionary Act sense of the person?
Eugene
From:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu
[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Finkelman
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 1:48 PM
To: Douglas Laycock; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics; Scarberry, Mark
Subject: Re: On a different strand of the seamless web
unlike Doug, I do not believe corporations are people, that they have religious
believes or that they have souls (that is of course an understatement);
corporations are legal vehicles designed to make money for the investors and to
shield the investors from having to use their own assets to cover losses and
debts.
I do not believe any faith thinks Hobby Lobby has an immortal soul, can go to
heaven or hell, or that it prays. So, I guess I am unpersuaded that there can
be an exemption issue for a corporation
________________________________
From:Douglas Laycock <dlayc...@virginia.edu>
To: Paul Finkelman <paul.finkel...@yahoo.com>; Law & Religion issues for Law
Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu>; "Scarberry, Mark"
<mark.scarbe...@pepperdine.edu>
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: On a different strand of the seamless web
Unlike Paul, I think the exemption issues and the government-sponsored prayer
issues are very different.
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