El Fri, 21 Jan 2011 02:34:58 +0530, Rahul Sundaram escribió: > On 01/21/2011 02:14 AM, Jesús Franco wrote: >> Hi Fedora fellows! >> >> I've become interested in a remix of Fedora based just on FaiF >> software. Please correct me if i'm wrong but i think the kernel is the >> only tiny piece of software it's non free. I'm not saying >> redistributable, but free as in freedom > > Welcome. > > If you are talking about firmware, the kernel is not the only piece. > Most of them independent firmware packages don't have equivalent source > under Free software licenses and Fedora merely requires them to be > redistributable. FSF free system guidelines at > http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html are > themselves based on the Fedora guidelines
Yes, even Alexandre Oliva has recognized than Fedora licensing guidelines its the basis on actual FSF's guidelines. This is a goal i pursue on the promotion of the Remix: you just need just a few changes to Fedora, if you want a totally FaiF system. > and was born out of my > discussions with RMS and FSF on bringing more clarity to FSF's position Fedora goes far beyond than FSF position in so many things! We encourage free culture and licenses, FSF not necessarily. For example, they don't assign even a free license to lot of the essays of RMS, and other documents. > http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html confirms that they > believe Fedora conforms to the policy with the exception of firmware. This is one of the only "issues" i have with Fedora project. This said, it's a foundation than Fedora respects its community members to realize their own vision of what they think a whole free system should be. That is just one of many reasons i do "marketing" most about Fedora project than default Fedora distribution. > So you might have to replace the kernel and exclude (via yum.conf or at > the repo level) most if not all of the firmware for such a remix. It's pretty easier to user the kernel-libre in an installed system. And arranging the replacement on kickstart files is easy to do, too. > You will have to confirm with FSF whether they consider Firefox as free > software or not. My understanding is that they do consider it as Free > software Yes, they consider Firefox as free, even they said its use of trademark is acceptable. Debian did a lot of noise about the unmodified binaries, just because a bunch of their developers always like to mess with the upstream sources. Disrespect for the trademarks its an issue on DFSG, not with FSF or Fedora policy. > packaging Icecat > for Fedora and although I don't think we have a policy preventing that > from being packaged in the official repos, it seems a bit redundant > considering the very few changes between that and Icecat I think they distribute even a privacy extension to include in Firefox, maybe this would be the only real contribution to it. > On the question of kernel-libre, we don't permit alternative kernels to > be in the official Fedora repository although Alexandre Oliva has > created a repo as per my suggestions via identi.ca and it is quite easy > to use in a Fedora Remix. Yep, me too, insisted a lot to Alexandre Oliva to do so, even he went far than our proposal and has arranged a freed-ora-freedom package with the only functionality of bringing to the user knowledge of what firmware-non- free packages are included by default in Fedora, conflicting with that; once installed, it doesn't let to install such kind of packages without removing "freedom" as a feature itself. > Nodoka is a GNOME 2.x theme and GNOME 3 themes have a different format > and Fedora 15 is going to default to using GNOME Shell and unless Nodoka > is ported over, this idea seems a bit belated. You might want to talk > to Nodoka author, Martin Sourada on his GNOME 3 plans before picking a > default. Hope that helps and let me know if you need further > assistance. Hmmm, i didn't know Martin Sourada was the author of Nodoka, i need to write to him, to know if is interested in the port. However, i'm interested too in not packaging Gnome-Shell into the remix, but the more stable Gnome 2.x, because its able to run too in older machines, and Gnome-Shell demands more powerful graphic capabilities. I hope it won't become an issue to try the next release of Fedora in older hardware, added to the theme discussed on desktop mailing list about the abscense of an office suite on the default Gnome live desktop. BTW, KDE spin includes KOffice in its liveCD. Also, by a while will be easier to help someone to use Gnome 2.x than Shell given the amount of tutorials around there. > Rahul Thanks a lot for your welcome and assistance, it helped me a lot to clarify a little bit more my own goals to make the Remix. Chris and Scott, thanks for the welcome too. Maybe a look to Blag kickstart files could give you some enlightenment about the issues you want to tinker more in your remix projects. Take a look here: ftp://blag.fsf.org/139000/en/iso/ -- Jesús Franco http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tezcatl _______________________________________________ remixes mailing list [email protected] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/remixes
