Hi Jeff, 

>  "Jeff DePolo WN3A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Even pass cavities don't necessarily attenuate harmonics 
> produced by a circulator sufficiently. 

This is true, it's all a game of numbers and good test equipment. 

>  A 1/4 wave cavity will have a very good pass response at 3/4 
> wave (3rd harmonic).  Even at other harmonics, or between
> harmonics, a bandpass cavity isn't necessarily going to give you 
> adequate attenuation of the harmonics. 

The large fly in the soup is the 2nd Harmonic. People should also 
be aware of UHF Cavities which are 3/4 wave, much betta'

For single unit operation, one of the better layouts is the circulator
followed by at least a 5 pole low pass filter, the output sent to a
band pass, band reject duplexer. 

> A pass can is always good practice on any transmitter, but a 
> one-stop-shopping cure for isolator harmonics it is not.

There is no cure, only practical harmonic reduction techniques.
 
> And be careful of the varieties of "harmonic filters" out there. 
> Some of the cheaper ones are just 2nd harmonic traps.  They'll 
> knock down the 2nd harmonic by 40 dB or so, but do nothing for the 
> 3rd and higher harmonics, which can really be a problem on highband 
> (3rd harmonic ends up on UHF).  A real low-pass filter is what 
> you should use.
> Jeff

Low pass filters are most often supplied/recomended with circulators.
They are actually simple to make, most often commercially priced +13dB
or higher than the actual parts used to make them. 

The real story is told with good test equipment.

cheers 
Skipp 

skipp025 @yahoo.com 




 

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