There are profound differences in the glactic noise floor/level vs the metro areas. RF wise, we (the people) tend to polute the noise floor pretty bad.
cheers, skipp > "Jeff DePolo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2 meters is a little different since most > > G.E./Motorola radios have a > > little better sensitivity, & the noise floor of 2 meters is > > much higher. I > > once measured the 2 meter noise floor here to be ~3000 K, or > > -122 dBm in a > > 16 kHz bandwidth. That's wny I almost never recommend a > > preamp ahead of a > > G.E. VHF receiver, but always for a UHF. > > > > Bob NO6B > > I agree, and to compound the problem, it's difficult to get enough T/R > isolation in most 600 kHz duplexed situations to see any increase in > usable sensitivity even at a quiet site. > > A few years back I got called to look at a 2m repeater with a "deaf" > receiver that had just been relocated to a new site. As it turned out, > the new site was beneath a high-voltage power line. Using the spectrum > analyzer you could "see" the notch response of the duplexer without > using a tracking generator - the noise level was *that* high. Effective > sensitivity for 12 dB SINAD was measured/calculated using a lossy tee at > a little over 5 uV, even though the Micor Rx was working just fine at > 0.3 uV by itself when connected directly to the service monitor. > > They moved to another site a few months later... > > At high-rise sites in downtown Philly I've mesured effective sensitivity > of 2 uV on 2m and 5 uV on 6m. In contrast, I have quiet 440 sites that > will break squelch and decode PL at 0.03 uV (Angle Linear PHEMT's doing > the job). > > --- Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/