I think the old FCC Form 610 asked if you were within 4 miles of the closest
point of a runway.  I can't say that I recall whether it was statute or
nautical though.  I guess I'll go look at a new application form, and see
what it says.  I'm no pilot, but this would seem to mean there would be a
symetrical oval around a single runway airport using a 4-mile radius where
aircraft might be flying lower and slower in an approach or other type
pattern.  Schools, homes, gas stations, restaurants, and grocery stores..
all could easily be within 4-miles of an airport.  Around here, some of the
higher ground along the ridge is unavailable for tower construction because
they built an airport about four miles or less away in the valley below
decades ago.  There are places I'd love to put up a 190-foot tower for a
repeater antenna.  Heck!  Pine trees grow 70 or 80-feet around here in
places where you can't put up a tower.  Lots of aircraft fly low, and then
there are those special people who fly the ultra-lights..

SG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Holman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting


> Yeah;
>          Thats something that was never mentioned in any ham radio exams.
> maybe someone should submit an article to the ARRL for the QST Mag.
>
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Grantham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
>
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> >
> > Visit with a friendly pilot and look at some of those nice publications
> the
> > FAA puts out that shows the patterns to fly around individual airports.
A
> > friend showed me some of these a while back.  With figure-8s, ovals,
> > symetrical, and non-symetrical patterns, and considering any unique
> terrain
> > features, it seems to be no wonder they have to do "studies" on each
> > individual application for construction.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:56 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Did I mention this tower is going to be 4 miles due West of the South
> end
> > of
> > > the runway, in other misspelled words, perpendicular to the runway.
> Thank
> > > God for spel chek!
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:05 PM
> > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Finch wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 20 feet, seems kinda crazy to me but that's the Government for ya!
> > >
> > > Yep. They probably went by the slide slope (or whatever the other side
> > > of that is called - the rise slope?) and it came out to 190 feet at
that
> > > distance.
> > >
> > > > They also required that it have red lights at
> > > > night as well as being painted!
> > >
> > > Being painted has nothing to do with the night lighting. It only
> > > pertains to daytime - paint or lit. There are some that are both, but
> > > only because the owners decided it was better to light it and forget
> > > maintenance on the paint, so the paint is faded below standard. But,
as
> > > long as it's lit, it doesn't matter.
> > >
> > > There certainly are cases where even below 200' the regulations apply.
> > >
> > > It's funny to see a power tower painted and lit while others on the
same
> > > line, even higher in elevation, do not have to be. Same with water
> > > towers - the orange and white checkerboards are a hoot.
> > >
> > > Joe M.
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