> From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 18:49:13 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re Circulator > > Andy, > > My understanding of British radio terminology is not complete, so I am a > little confused by your statement about the "receive" port of the > circulator. > > In circulator (isolator) applications I am familiar with, the input of > the circulator connects directly to the transmitter output, the output > of the circulator connects to the TX input cavity of the duplexer, and a > 50 ohm load is connected to the "side" connector.
I learned that was an "isolator". The product I work on in my dayside job has a four-port circulator. The transmitter is connected to port one, which passes any signal "clockwise" (for the sake of argument) to port two. The antenna is connected to port two, the receiver to port three, and a load to port four. Since all signals are passing clockwise, from port one to two, port two to three, port three to four, and port four to one, the load on port four is not visible to the transmitter. The receiver on port three is not visible to the transmitter, assuming the antenna absorbs all the RF. And any signals that the bandpass filter in the front end of the receiver rejects do not go back out the antenna, as they would have to go counterclockwise to get there. Ditto received signals and the transmitter; the circulator won't allow them to go that way. The same product also has an isolator in it at an earlier stage. What goes in port one comes out port two; what comes in port two is turned into heat in the load on port three. The energy coming in port two can't go to port one because it's being steered clockwise by the isolator. Circulators are very common in microwave applications as they allow the use of a single waveguide for both transmit and receive, minimizing the problems inherent in running what is essentially a rectangular pipe from the radio to the antenna and the problems of evenly illuminating a reflector with two different feedhorns. I have casually wondered upon occasion if a four-port circulator in a repeater would confer any benefit, possibly increasing isolation and allowing the use of smaller, hopefully less costly duplexers. de kg7yy [snip] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/