Hmmmm, let me go back and double check that, might could be a problem there,
as one said, what about the cable before the duplexer's.  All I know is most
of this started after the power supply took a dump, might be it killed
something, or my astron 70 amp is not up to par.  Will retake the
measurements and give them again.

Mathew


-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 7:25 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Rx is Better than TX, Why


Dave is absolutely correct.  The original post states 160 Watts in to the
duplexer and 130 Watts out.  That equates to less than a dB of loss through
the duplexer ( .9 db to be more accurate ).

Wade - KR7K

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> > > Ok, I know this sounds silly, but my repeater is now hearing better
> > > than it transmits.  Here's the setup, the the issue.  I have a
> > > Maggorie (no comments) HiPro transmiitter running 2 watts into a
> > > Vocom Amp running 160 Watts into the duplexer, 130 out to the
> > > antenna, fed with 7/8" hardline into a Diamond Dual Band Antenna at
> > > 92'.  VSWR is 1.1:1, with 130 watts forward and 1/10 watt reflected
> > > at an impedance of 52 ohms, (MJF 259).
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> >I would vote for a failure of the Diamond antenna. I would bet one or
> >more sets of the set screws holding the elements together have come
> >loose. When this happens, the antenna will still present a perfect 50
> >ohm load, but perform poorly.  Diamonds are okay antennas when they are
> >new, but they have to be taken down every year or two, disassembled,
> >cleaned and tightened up. Really only a decent antenna if you can get
> >to it conveniently for the annual repair.  You will never see this type
> >of failure with the wattmeter or impedance bridge.
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> Since this is a 2 meter system, it would make some sense that a partial
> antenna failure would result in the TX being degraded more than the
> RX.  This is because of the relatively high noise floor on 2 meters.  Any
> loss in the antenna system will directly impact the TX signal of course,
> but the same loss will cause both received signal & noise to be reduced by
> the same amount.  If the repeater RX has a very low noise figure, it's
> likely that the first couple of dB of loss in the antenna system will
> nearly equally drop both signal & noise as seen by the RX, resulting in no
> perceived drop in RX performance.  However, any mechanical failure of the
> antenna would likely also cause a high VSWR and/or desense, neither of
> which are present here.
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