Thanks Ken, I'll be setting up my Doug Hall this evening with my scope
and looking for clues. If interested I will post my finding.

I didn't realize that your "ACC serial converter" worked only with the
newer DTMF enabled Kenwwod radios until after building the entire
project including screening three boards. Guess I should have read
your site better.



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 10:52 AM 3/24/2005 -0800, you wrote:
> 
> >At 3/24/2005 06:54 AM, you wrote:
> >>Well, for things like this, I have built myself a serial snooper.
 Its 
> >>basically a serial cable that has the output split so that you can
plug it 
> >>in as usual to whatever you are hooking together and then the 3rd
port 
> >>goes to another computer running Telix or some terminal.  Then you
can 
> >>operate the device as usual and see the control commands come out
in the 
> >>terminal.  After some playing around you can figure out their
scheme and 
> >>what you need to send it to do what.  I have used this to figure out 
> >>proprietary formats for lots of things and it works well.  Most
reecently 
> >>there was a telephone call box that used a computer with the
companys own 
> >>software to control it.  I wanted to control it with a PIC instead
of a PC 
> >>so I asked the company for their commands and formats etc. which they 
> >>would not give.  So, I snooped and in less than a day I had thrown
their 
> >>software in the trash and my PIC was working great.  If I were you
I would 
> >>snoop on Doug Halls two serial lines going into the Kenwood radio.
 I am 
> >>sure you can figure out what you need to send that way.  Sounds
like a 
> >>great problem, if I had one of those radios I would try it myself.
 Hope 
> >>this helps.
> 
> <----While I'm not intimately familiar with the protocols of the older
> Kenwoods, Kenwood has historically used 9600 baud for its mobile radios'
> serial data. I know for a fact all the newer ones do (TM-V7, g707, V708,
> TM-271A). This is the easy part.....
> 
> The problem comes from Kenwood NOT having any sort of "standard" in the
> protocol used. When we coded up the control code for these radios
for our
> controllers, we used a port sniffer to figure out the protocol used
for the
> various (and totally undocumented!) commands. 
> 
> While Bob brings up an interesting point about SPI, I really don't think
> this is the case. Then again, I've been wrong before :-) However it
should
> be easy enough to figure out with a working RBI-1 and a 'scope.
> 
> Ken
>
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