Thanks Ken, I'll be setting up my Doug Hall this evening with my scope and looking for clues. If interested I will post my finding. I didn't realize that your "ACC serial converter" worked only with the newer DTMF enabled Kenwwod radios until after building the entire project including screening three boards. Guess I should have read your site better. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:52 AM 3/24/2005 -0800, you wrote: > > >At 3/24/2005 06:54 AM, you wrote: > >>Well, for things like this, I have built myself a serial snooper. Its > >>basically a serial cable that has the output split so that you can plug it > >>in as usual to whatever you are hooking together and then the 3rd port > >>goes to another computer running Telix or some terminal. Then you can > >>operate the device as usual and see the control commands come out in the > >>terminal. After some playing around you can figure out their scheme and > >>what you need to send it to do what. I have used this to figure out > >>proprietary formats for lots of things and it works well. Most reecently > >>there was a telephone call box that used a computer with the companys own > >>software to control it. I wanted to control it with a PIC instead of a PC > >>so I asked the company for their commands and formats etc. which they > >>would not give. So, I snooped and in less than a day I had thrown their > >>software in the trash and my PIC was working great. If I were you I would > >>snoop on Doug Halls two serial lines going into the Kenwood radio. I am > >>sure you can figure out what you need to send that way. Sounds like a > >>great problem, if I had one of those radios I would try it myself. Hope > >>this helps. > > <----While I'm not intimately familiar with the protocols of the older > Kenwoods, Kenwood has historically used 9600 baud for its mobile radios' > serial data. I know for a fact all the newer ones do (TM-V7, g707, V708, > TM-271A). This is the easy part..... > > The problem comes from Kenwood NOT having any sort of "standard" in the > protocol used. When we coded up the control code for these radios for our > controllers, we used a port sniffer to figure out the protocol used for the > various (and totally undocumented!) commands. > > While Bob brings up an interesting point about SPI, I really don't think > this is the case. Then again, I've been wrong before :-) However it should > be easy enough to figure out with a working RBI-1 and a 'scope. > > Ken > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. > http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html > We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/