We had 'PL' capability 35 years ago and were using it then. 

  Neil - WA6KLA 

Don Pomplun wrote:
> 
> You say "NOT often found in amateur radios".  My recollection of the
> history is that way back when there was no PL capability; this was
> followed by transmitting 100 Hz PL; then programmable PL xmit; and now
> I see many more radios capable of PL encode AND decode.
> Our situation is that we have small local workgroups who need to
> converse locally, and occasionally chat with everybody in all groups.
> If I thought about it, I could probably figure out a "best way" to
> arrange this with simplex & separate T&R freqs, and different PLs.
> However, it might be too complicated for the average user to deal
> with.
> 73,
> Don
> 
> At 09:00 PM 5/18/2005 -0700, you wrote:
> 
> > Don,
> >
> > You're absolutely correct.  I was using the term "simplex" in the
> > sense
> > of TX and RX on the same frequency.  Although certainly not a
> > universal
> > definition, the term "half duplex" is often used to describe TX and
> > RX
> > on two different frequencies but not simultaneously.  Some might
> > consider that practice to be wasteful of spectrum.
> >
> > Perhaps a more efficient alternative is to configure the simplex
> > repeater radio to use different CTCSS tones for TX and RX.  The user
> > radios must, of course, be capable of encoding and decoding
> > different
> > tones, but that capability is not often found in Amateur grade
> > radios.
> >
> > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> >
> > Don Pomplun wrote:
> >
> > > I agree that hearing everything twice would get old quickly.
> > > What's wrong with this:  The simplex repeater box listens on one
> > freq,
> > > then retransmits on another.  Everybody hears each transmission
> > only
> > > once, albeit with a delay.
> > > Isn't the main advantage that of avoided cost?
> > >
> > >
> > > At 07:38 PM 5/18/2005 -0700, you wrote:
> > >
> > >> The Zetron 19B "Simplexor" was the only simplex repeater that
> > seemed
> > >> to
> > >> work properly, since it was designed for public-safety
> > application,
> > >> primarily for forwarding 2-tone sequential paging signals
> > followed
> > >> by a
> > >> voice message.  The 19B could be set to repeat the tones and
> > message
> > >> a
> > >> certain number of times.  Best of all, it was designed to plug
> > into
> > >> most
> > >> Motorola and Kenwood commercial radios, and the voice quality was
> > >> excellent.  I use the word "was" for a reason; the 19B Simplexor
> > was
> > >>
> > >> discontinued a year or so ago.
> > >>
> > >> Not every radio user appreciates a simplex repeater, since all
> > >> listeners
> > >> hear every transmission twice.  That gets old, really quick!
> > >>
> > >> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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