Gary,

I wasn't aware that duplexers *cause* problems- perhaps a duplexer will
*solve* your problem!

If we assume that your 2m transmitter is putting out 50 watts and your
receiver has a sensitivity of 0.3 uV, you will need around 89 dB of
isolation between TX and RX.  This can be achieved with about 22,000 feet of
horizontal separation between antennas.  Since you have less than 1/10 of
the required separation, you probably have far less than the necessary
isolation for noise-free operation.  Gain antennas, if used, will require
additional isolation.

The fact that pass cavities provide minimal improvement suggests that
something else is causing the interference.  If the problem just started
recently, check to see if someone has put a new transmitter on the air
nearby, or if any work has been done on a co-located station.  Careless
techs sometimes leave off critical shield plates.  Also check to see if your
link radio is leaking some RF at the input to the last tripler stage- its
driver just happens to operate in the 2m band.

A good sweep with a spectrum analyzer should uncover any radiators at your
receive site.  Since you already have a UHF link system, try moving the
receiver to a site that is at least 4 miles away from the transmitter site.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-----Original Message-----
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Two Meters.....

I have an interesting thing happening on our two meter repeater.  We 
have what appears to be a blanking white noise that is present on the 
input.  The repeater is a split site system with a 440 link from the 
two meter receiver site over to the transmitter site about 2000ft 
away.  There are no duplexers in the system to cause problems.

The link on 440 is clean of any noise, so we are quite confident the 
link is not a problem.

On two meters, when a signal is anything less than full quieting, we 
get a white noise that will almost mask the audio.  We have tried 
different receivers such as the GE MVS and now a GE Master II.  We 
have removed the preamplifier with minimal results.  The receivers 
have excellent sensitivity and the tuning process of the receivers is 
correct.  We have also tried putting pass cavities ahead of the 
receiver with no appreciable change.  The antenna is a DB-224 mounted 
on a broadcast tower just below the bays of an FM broadcast 
commercial transmitter.  We have turned OFF the fm broadcast 
transmitter at times to check if perhaps this was the problem but no 
change was noted.

ANY IDEAS from anyone???

THANKS!
Gary - W5GNB













 
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