--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Don Kupferschmidt" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Nate,
> 
> I'm wondering if you can point me to a link that would further 
explain lo / 
> hi injection.  Hate to admit, but I'm not all that familiar about 
the 
> subject, especially in repeater operation.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Don, KD9PT
> 
> 
 (Snip)

Hi Don,

The normal MASTR II receiver uses a low-side Local Oscillator 
injection for their mixer.  The IF is 11.2 MHz, so you deduct 11.2 
MHz from the operating frequency.  The normal operating frequency 
for the 88 series MASTR II radios is 450 to 470, so the LO (Local 
Oscillator) is engineered to run between 438.8 and 458.8 MHz (450 –
11.2 = 438.8; and 470 –11.2 = 458.8).

When we in the amateur radio service order a low-side injection 
crystal, we are essentially asking the LO to operate between 428.8 
and 438.8 MHz, worst case being 10 MHz below the engineered 
operating frequency range (440 –11.2 = 428.8, and 450 –11.2 = 
438.8)  This is stretching the original design of the local 
oscillator 10 MHz beyond the design parameters.

If we order high-side injection crystals, we add 11.2 MHz to our 
operating frequency, rather than subtract it.  So the LO will runs 
between 451.2 and 461.2 MHz (440 + 11.2 = 451.2, and 450 +11.2 = 
462.2).

If you are operating in an area of the country where you run low-in, 
high-out split repeaters, your receivers will operate between 440 
and 445 MHz, and the highest possible LO frequency will be 456.2 MHz 
(445 + 11.2 = 456.2), or right in the sweet spot for the LO range 
(438.8 and 458.8).
 
If you are operating in an area of the country where you run high-
in, low-out split repeaters, and your receiver will operate between 
445 and 450 MHz, and the highest possible LO frequency will be 450 + 
11.2 = 462.2, or only 3.4 MHz higher than the designed frequency of 
the LO.

The cross-over frequency seems to be 448.300 MHz, which is 1.7 MHz 
higher at a high-side injection than designed, and a low-side 
injection is 1.7 MHz lower than designed Local Oscillator.

So, maybe a good rule of thumb would be to order high-side injection 
on operating frequencies below 448.300, and low-side injection on 
receive frequencies above 448.300.  That way, the worst case 
scenario is your being either 1.7 MHz higher or lower than the 
original engineered design on the local oscillator.

You can do the same math for high-band radios.  Same IF.

Hope that helps.


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