Just what I needed - thanks Kevin!

Larry

-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin Custer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jan 2, 2007 5:29 AM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question re: Crystal Ordering for UHF MICOR 
>Receiver
>
>All,
>
>On a UHF Micor, AFC is not an option, it's a standard feature.  UNLESS 
>you are going to disable the AFC functionality of your UHF Micor 
>receiver, you'll need to flip the diode polarity - all four, when going 
>to the opposite injection.  There are four diodes in the UHF Micor 
>receiver as the discriminator rectifiers operate as (I believe) a 
>voltage doubler; increasing the output voltage available from the 
>discriminator.  I believe this was done for one simple reason; to 
>eliminate the need of a voltage amplifier to run the AFC varactor in the 
>channel element.  In UHF, because of higher multiplication factor, the 
>channel element fundamental needs less change to keep the receiver 
>centered; as compared to a VHF LO.  So, in UHF, a Micor discriminator 
>built with a voltage doubler supplies enough voltage to the channel 
>element varactor without the need for a AFC amplifier.
>
>Eric is correct where the VHF Micor receiver conversion is concerned, 
>unless you are using the K1006 and companion AFC amplifier option, 
>swapping the diode polarity is not a necessity; UNLESS you are using the 
>receiver for something like digital communications or in a simulcast 
>repeater system where audio polarity to the voter is (can be) important.
>
>A way to remove and swap the polarity of these fragile diodes is to snip 
>them out with a sharp pair of dikes, instead of de-soldering them.  
>Then, simply tack solder them back in, after reversing polarity; of course.
>
>On your 2 meter Micor receivers with Low Side Injection, likely the 
>capacitors in the LO weren't changed from their original 150.8 to 162 
>MHz. values.  When converting a 150.8 to 162 split Micor VHF receiver to 
>the 142 - 150.8 split, you have a choice; change the caps and use HSI, 
>or leave the caps alone and use LSI.  We at Repeater Builder change the 
>caps and order HSI crystals.
>
>On a UHF Micor receiver that was built for the 450 - 470 split, ham band 
>sensitivity can be somewhat less than expected - wanted.  Here is an 
>article that can help with that:
><http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/uhfsensitronRX.html>
>
>Hope this helps...
>Kevin Custer
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> OK thanks - I'm trusting then also that I can do the same on UHF, order 
>> high-side injection crystals for my KXN1024A UHF Receiver channel element 
>> and leave the discriminator diodes as they are.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>>> Larry,
>>>
>>> I don't think the diode polarity matters, unless you are using channel
>>> elements with built-in AFC controls.  I've converted a few high-band VHF
>>> MICORs without touching the diodes, and they work just fine.
>>>
>>> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

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