Jack, I see your point, done that my self.  But if u set up will in a parking 
lot, and while driving, hit the PTT key, your relativly safe.  Seeing as how 
this is a techinal field, not many "ID10T"s are out there.  Think most of us 
can multi-task holding a mic and driving at the same time.  Like someone else 
said, there are a few people that cant handle multi-tasking with a comms device 
and driving.  Oh well I guess.

Chris


----- Original Message ----
From: Jack Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:16:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...

On the other hand, I need to join in here.  True it seems like everyone has a 
cell phone glued to their
ears these days.  But from the ham radio aspect, cell phones aren't nearly as 
attention consuming as
setting up your mobile whilst driving!  Many times I've swerved dangerously all 
over the road while
trying to set up to QSY to a different channel/frequency!  Dumb me, I know but 
with the miniature
readouts and push buttons the ham rig requires more concentration than does a 
cell.
 
73 de Jack
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Chris Rosing 
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...


You know, There is a lot of states out there and cities, and for me, bases, 
that permit talking on cellphones while driving.  The msg that would get 
reported out of this would be the cell phone part as the masses in this country 
use cellphones all the time.  I am curious as to how many other places that 
have banded cell phones, have it written this way to ban 2 way radios like our 
ham radios, FRS radios that groups such as boy scouts, large families, 
etc...use when convoying to a new location.  And truckers with their ever 
popular CB's.  What about my customers that have a GPS tracking device, with a 
Data Terminal Display on their dash to receive txt msgs, and route info?  This 
is basically blocking out all communications in vehicles that have become ever 
popular over the last decade to save companies money, therefore pushes money 
back into the economy in other ways.  AND why are emergency people so special.  
They drive at a higher rate of speed then the average person,
 swerving out of the way of people that don't pay any attention to what is 
going on.  Any ways, that's just by beef to the stupidity of people in this 
country that run it.  So if you know of any other places that have a ban on all 
communication devices please let me/us know. 
 
Thanks
Chris
KD5ZBE


----- Original Message ----
From: Ken Arck <[EMAIL PROTECTED] net>
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:54:40 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] A little OT perhaps...


....but the morons who run our State are considering this (time to mobilize 
Oregon hams....(coming to a State near you?)

http://www.leg. state.or. us/07reg/ measures/ sb0200.dir/ sb0293.intro. html 



74th OREGON LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY--2007 Regular Session     NOTE:  Matter within 
 { +  braces and plus signs + } in  an  amended section is new. Matter within  
{ -  braces and minus  signs - } is existing law to be omitted. New sections 
are within   { +  braces and plus signs + } .     LC 1265                       
        Senate Bill 293     Printed pursuant to Senate Interim Rule 213.28 by 
order of the    President of the Senate in conformance with presession filing
    rules, indicating neither advocacy nor opposition on the part    of the 
President (at the request of Senate Interim Committee on    Judiciary)          
                            SUMMARY     The following summary is not prepared 
by the sponsors of the  measure and is not a part of the body thereof subject 
to  consideration by the Legislative Assembly. It is an editor's  brief 
statement of the essential features of the measure as  introduced.       
Creates offense of operating motor vehicle while using mobile  communication 
device. Punishes by maximum fine of $720.  Authorizes suspension of driving 
privileges for repeat offenses.                              A BILL FOR AN ACT
  Relating to use of mobile communication device while driving.  Be It Enacted 
by the People of the State of Oregon:    SECTION 1. { +  Sections 2 and 3 of 
this 2007 Act are added  to  and made a part of the Oregon Vehicle Code. + }    
SECTION 2.  { + (1) A person commits the offense of operating  a  motor vehicle 
while using a mobile communication device if the  person, while operating a 
motor vehicle on a highway, uses a  mobile communication device but does not 
use a hands-free  accessory.    (2) For purposes of this section:    (a) 
'Hands-free accessory' means an attachment or built-in  feature for or an 
addition to a mobile communication device,  whether or not permanently 
installed in a motor vehicle, that  when used allows a person to maintain both 
hands on the steering  wheel. + }     { +  (b) 'Mobile communication device' 
means a text  messaging  device or a wireless, two-way communication device 
designed to  receive and
 transmit voice communication. + }     { +  (3) This section does not apply to: 
   (a) A person operating an ambulance or emergency vehicle; or    (b) A person 
summoning medical or other emergency help if no  other person in the vehicle is 
capable of summoning help.    (4) The offense described in this section, 
operating a motor  vehicle while using a mobile communication device, is a 
Class A  traffic violation. + }    SECTION 3.  { + (1) The Department of 
Transportation shall  suspend the driving privileges of a person who repeatedly 
commits  the offense of operating a motor vehicle while using a mobile  
communication device as described in section 2 of this 2007 Act.    (2) The 
department shall suspend driving privileges under this  section for 30 days 
when a person is convicted of a second  offense within a three-year period.    
(3) The department shall suspend driving privileges under this  section for 90 
days when a
 person is convicted of three or more  offenses within a three-year period.    
(4) A person is entitled to administrative review under ORS  809.440 of a 
suspension under this section. + }        ------------ --------- --------- 
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