I would think you'd be best served by getting the duplexer ASAP.  If
your intent is to have a smaller, portable, quick to set up
repeater... the duplexer allows you to eliminate one antenna &
feedline, sets up more quickly, and works immediately without antenna
jockeying, tuning, etc. (assuming your duplexer is properly tuned).  I
have the IC221s combo up as a UHF repeater using a mobile duplexer. 
Until I got the duplexer correctly tuned, the desense made the setup
unusable.  However, now that it's tuned I get a 15-18 mile radius
coverage from the colinear ground plane 18 feet above the back of my
garage rrof.  It works as expected.
- WB2ULR

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Rau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm putting together a portable "suitcase" repeater for our search and
> rescue team, using Icom F121 radios per this article:
> 
>
http://www.repeater-builder.com/icom/repeater-mod-for-icom-ic121-221-series.rtf
> 
> I've got the two radios together and working, my question is: has
> anyone had success with this configuration using two separate antennas
> (no duplexer)?  I've tried using two twinlead J-poles, one at the top
> of a 25' mast and one at ground level (tried both RX and TX at the
> top, TX at top seems to work better), I've also tried a home-built 1/4
> wave with four radials at the top (TX) with a 1/4 wave magmount on a
> car directly below.  I can hit the repeater with a 5W handheld from a
> good long distance away, and get the squelch tail for the programmed
> hang time.  However, I don't get any audio repeated much farther than
> a half mile to a mile away.  I can do handheld-to-handheld simplex a
> good deal farther than this.
> 
> I have permission to use a 5.5 MHz split pair of frequencies in the 
> 150 MHz range, which is what I've done all testing on.  It sure acts
> like the TX is desensing the receiver.  We ultimately may want to
> incorporate a mobile duplexer (Sinclair or similar) into the box
> anyway just to be able to use a single antenna, but I'm surprised this
> isn't working better with two antennas mounted directly above/below
> each other.  Interestingly, Icom apparently offers this configuration
> (two F121 mobiles in a Pelican case) as a standard "portable repeater"
> product now, and the duplexer is an option, so I'm wondering under
> what circumstances this thing will work without a duplexer?
> 
> Any comments or suggestions are appreciated.
> 
> Brian
> K9JVA
>


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