I would consider anything that uses a semi-condutor material to be
active, Silicon and Germanium transistors included.

On 10/24/07, Jeff DePolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Beta is the current gain of a transistor, HFE and Hfe.
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> Finally something we can agree on.  But the way you used "beta" was
> referring to the net gain of a *circuit* using a transistor in
> emitter-follower
> configuration, which I don't think is the correct use for the term, and
> which is why I put "beta" in quotes in my reply.
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> > An emitter follower will have power gain only if the
> > transistor has a beta, HFE or Hfe, greater than 1, but is
> > active in any case.
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> A transistor is capable of gain, thereby making it an active device.  It's
> gain (or lack thereof) in a maldesigned circuit doesn't change the fact that
> the device, itself, is still capable of power gain.
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> A dead transistor with an hFE of < 1, in my opinion, makes it no longer a
> transistor.  If we're going to consider broken or burned-out components in
> our discussions, we're never going to get anywhere...
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> > Yes diodes and transistor have junction capacitance,
> > resistance, but get their properties from entirely different
> > means than passive devices such as a resistor. Junction
> > capacitance is a function of energy supplied to the device. A
> > capacitor does not change its properties based on energy
> > supplied, unless one exceeds its specs. A diode does.
> > A transistor and diode change their properties based on the
> > energy supplied. This makes both active.
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> Under your definition, if there is a change in one of its properties of a
> device when energy is supplied to it, the device is active, do I understand
> that right?  A diode's capacitance changes with applied voltage, OK, I
> concur.  The voltage across a resistor changes with current through it.  An
> inductor's reactance changes with frequency.  The resistance in a length of
> copper wire changes with temperature.  So I guess all of these are active
> devices?
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