Thanks Bob the repeater come up today and sounds good no open squelch nose nice 
and clear. I will see how it goes.
Thanks
Bob L
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob M. 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 6:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF 5000 CLB


  Which "that" are you referring to???

  What book did you look in?

  Please be more specific.

  Bob M.
  ======
  --- Bob Luttrull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  > I have been looking in the book and did not find
  > that. Were did you find that at?
  > Bob
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: Bob M. 
  > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 5:25 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF 5000 CLB
  > 
  > 
  > Watch how it drifts when the station cools off or
  > heats up. While the VCO may lock between, say, 20
  > and
  > 40, the book recommends 38uA so it has some room
  > to
  > swing. You can adjust the tuning and see how high
  > and
  > low you can go before the green LED goes out, then
  > tune it in the middle. As long as it stays locked,
  > you're OK.
  > 
  > Long-term drift should be 2-4uA. If the tuning is
  > erratic or the meter jumps around as you slowly
  > adjust
  > the tuning slug, you'll have to pull the VCO, pull
  > the
  > tuning slug, clean all the metal filings off the
  > threads and inside the VCO, put it all back
  > together,
  > make sure the thin nut is tight so the tuning slug
  > requires a bit of erfort to tune, and readjust it.
  > Everything should tune smoothly with no jumps on
  > the
  > meter.
  > 
  > Bob M.
  > ======
  > --- Bob Luttrull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > 
  > > Hi Bob
  > > I put the panel on and the RX was at 48uA and
  > the TX
  > > was at 40uA so I put the RX at 40uA. The RX
  > light
  > > came back on and it working good for now. I will
  > > check it in the morning to see if it is good. 
  > > Thanks
  > > Bob
  > > 
  > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > From: Bob M. 
  > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  > > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 3:09 PM
  > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF 5000 CLB
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Also make sure the VCO locks are in the OPERATE
  > > position. They should be in the TRANSIT or
  > LOCKED
  > > position if/when the station is moved. This
  > won't
  > > affect the problems your having, but it will
  > allow
  > > the
  > > VCOs to pick up noise from anything mechanical
  > > outside
  > > the station, like fans or rotating machinery.
  > > 
  > > The control tray should be slightly warm. Heat
  > > would
  > > be generated on the IPA/REG board in the center
  > > rear;
  > > nothing else should create noticeable heat. The
  > > only
  > > item that needed the fan was the PA/PS assembly
  > at
  > > the
  > > top. The fans were usually mounted between those
  > > and
  > > the control tray.
  > > 
  > > Bob M.
  > > ======
  > > --- Bob Luttrull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > > 
  > > > No I don't thing that it is the controll
  > because
  > > the
  > > > RX tray hot very HOT at times that is way I
  > put
  > > the
  > > > fan on it when it was in my basement. I am
  > going
  > > to
  > > > put the meter on it to see where the uA are at
  > > for
  > > > the RX and TX. The repeater has been moved 3
  > > time
  > > > and has not been check for alignment.
  > > > Thanks
  > > > Bob
  > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > > From: Andrew G. 
  > > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  > > > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:11 AM
  > > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF 5000
  > CLB
  > > > 
  > > > Bob,
  > > > Sounds like there's a problem with your Arcom
  > > > controller (RC-210 I guess?). I've had mine
  > bug
  > > out
  > > > a few times where something similiar would
  > > occur,
  > > > but it usually corrected itself after being
  > > reset.
  > > > Could be firmware or a bad programming string
  > > > somewhere... 
  > > > 
  > > > As far as the open squelch noise goes, thats
  > > > something I've never encountered. I run 3 CLB
  > > UHF
  > > > Stations and a CXB 900MHz Station with no
  > > cooling on
  > > > the control tray and this hasn't happened on
  > any
  > > of
  > > > them. Is the white noise appearing in the
  > > hangtime
  > > > only with no cor activity on the RX? Does this
  > > still
  > > > happen when you run the MSF with the internal
  > > > controller?
  > > > 
  > > > Andy KC2GOW
  > > > 
  > > > P.S. We can fight over the legality of the
  > time
  > > > announcement on repeaters on another
  > > thread...hahaha
  > > > 
  > > > --- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com,
  > > > "kd7ikz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > > Hi All 
  > > > > I am runnig a MSF 5000 CLB with a Arcom
  > > > controll. I am also runnig 
  > > > > echolink on the repeater. I have the
  > repeater
  > > > say the time every 
  > > > hour 
  > > > > and half hour. I was going to work today and
  > > the
  > > > repeater said to 
  > > > time 
  > > > > ok. Then I was going to get on echolink and
  > > the
  > > > repeater did not 
  > > > key 
  > > > > up so I called home and the wife said that
  > the
  > > > TX light was on and 
  > > > the 
  > > > > RX light was blinking on and off. She tryed
  > to
  > > > reset but the RX 
  > > > light 
  > > > > would not come back on. So I just let it be
  > > for
  > > > about two hours and 
  > > > > tryed it again and the RX light came up. can
  > > > anyone gave me any 
  > > > ides 
  > > > > on what it mite be? Also I have to keep a
  > fan
  > > on
  > > > the RF tray and 
  > > > > station control because it gets to hot and
  > > when
  > > > it TX it sounds 
  > > > like 
  > > > > it has a open squelch.I am new to the
  > repeater
  > > > world. The repeater 
  > > > is 
  > > > > working fine other then that.
  > > > > Thanks
  > > > > Bob
  > > > > kd7ikz 
  > > > > echolink 216767

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