I jumped the gun. The are going to UHF if they are not already there now. I 
am watching ALL of the Buffalo stations on UHF right now. I realize that the 
VHF transmitters are still operating.

Chuck


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John J. Riddell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): 
NTIA propaganda


> Chuck,
> No they have not switched to UHF....dunno where you got that info?
> I use an antenna here and still receive all of the VHF stations in Toronto
> and Buffalo.
> Erie is a problem for us with a high power channel 13 station in this area
> so Ch 12 is unwatchable.
>
> 73 John VE3AMZ
> Waterloo Ontario
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chuck Kelsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic 
> questions):
> NTIA propaganda
>
>
>> All of the Buffalo, Erie, Toronto and Rochester TV stations have gone to
>> UHF.
>>
>> Chuck
>> WB2EDV
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dan Hancock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 6:50 AM
>> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions):
>> NTIA propaganda
>>
>>
>>> It was my undeerstanding that all digital TV would be on UHF, no VHF
>>> and that the VHF spectrum would be re-allocated.
>>> Am I in error?
>>>
>>> Dan N8DJP
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else here seen the bull put out by NTIA on
>>>> https://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx
>>>> =====================================================
>>>> 1.  What is the digital television transition?
>>>>
>>>> At midnight on February 17, 2009, all full-power television
>>> stations in
>>>> the United States will stop broadcasting in analog and switch to
>>> 100%
>>>> digital broadcasting. Digital broadcasting promises to provide a
>>> clearer
>>>> picture and more programming options and will free up airwaves for
>>> use
>>>> by emergency responders.
>>>> =====================================================
>>>>
>>>> "will free up airwaves for use by emergency responders."???
>>>>
>>>> The TV spectrum is being freed up by ANALOG stations and the SAME
>>>> SPECTRUM will be reused by DIGITAL stations. The only spectrum being
>>>> freed up by TV for PS use is on the 764 MHz + band. (two TV
>>> channels, I
>>>> believe) and has nothing to do with a transition to digital. The
>>> same
>>>> could have been achieved by simply moving those analog stations to
>>> other
>>>> channels.
>>>>
>>>> An analog allocation is 6 MHz. A digital allocation is 6 MHz.
>>>> How is digital saving spectrum?
>>>>
>>>> As there are some broadcast types here, maybe someone can explain
>>> the
>>>> technology used where X analog stations using 6 MHz each will be
>>> more
>>>> efficient by the same number of stations using 6 MHz each. Is this
>>> that
>>>> new math they are using?
>>>>
>>>> I would like to apply the same to 2M to get more spectrum out of
>>> it. If
>>>> I take my 16 kHz analog signal and make it 16 kHz digital, will we
>>> be
>>>> able to fit more repeaters in the band? (aside from the fact most
>>> will
>>>> have no users)
>>>>
>>>> Joe M.
>>>>
>>>
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