Joe
you dont have any PL tone???on your repeaters

gervais
ve2ckn

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From: "wa5luy" <wa5...@cablelynx.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:15 AM
To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Help with intermod between repeaters.

> Thanks to all for your replies.
> 
> Joe M wrote
> "You need to reject the opposite TX on each repeater. Your BP 
> filters were set wrong. You rejected the RX on the TX side - 
> something the duplexer should be doing already. You need to install 
> them in the repeater and reject the other TX. IOW, install a filter 
> in the .16 repeater and notch the .36 TX. A good duplexer should do 
> this as well, but many don't."
> 
> Joe that's what I thought I did. Maybe I did not make myself clear. I 
> put a BPBR cavity rejecting 146.76 and passing 147.36 between the 
> repeater transmitter and the duplexer at the 147.36 repeater.  This 
> is where I was surprised that the  mixing got worse.  If I put the 
> cavity in the wrong place let me know.
> 
> Eric Lemmon WB6FLY wrote
> "The first question that enters my mind is, were both Micor stations
> originally built as repeaters, with the extra filters and shielding 
> plates,or are one or both base stations that have been converted to 
> repeaters?"
> 
> I built our repeater. It's the 146.76 machine.  It was originally a 
> pager TX. All shielding and the lo pass TX filter is in place. I have 
> looked at it with a spectrum analyzer and see no other signal than 
> 146.76. I have no idea as to what the other repeater was made from. I 
> will take a second look at their TX. The next time I go down there I 
> plan to take a 50 watt radio and connect it to their duplexer to try 
> to eliminate or prove their PA has a problem.
> 
> "The second question is,
> are either or both repeaters equipped with ferrite isolators?"
> 
> The 146.76 has no isolator. The 147.36 has a brand new, I believe 
> Sinclair, isolator that was factory built for this frequency. The 
> isolator has no affect on the problem although I don't think it's 
> installed properly. I did not notice when I was there but I think 
> it's mounted on a steel plate. Also there in no cavity between it and 
> the duplexer.  The mixing is there  with or without the isolator in 
> line.  They paid big bucks thinking this would fix the problem. By 
> the way they also replaced their antenna and feed line which may have 
> made the mixing worse.
> 
> John wrote
> "I hate to tell you, a definite way to eliminate 
> the problem, is a frequency change so that the 
> output of the two transmitters are no longer not 600 khz apart."
> 
> Funny that`s the first thing I told them. I am familiar with two 
> pagers 600 khz apart and the havoc that can be raised.  
> 
> I plan to go back down there when I have time and let the group know 
> what I find.
> Again thanks to all.
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