Not sure why people think voice over IP is cheap, it is less costly but cheap ? 
100% monitoring of line quality, multiple T 1s with different carriers and 
still support a micro wave link to back all this up. When the T1 (s)goes down 
and Micro is up we lose significant capacity on the system however it is meant 
to be a partial not a full back up.
If you are in an area where one carrier and only one carrier is brining it into 
you building you have a single point of entry with no back up if some tech cuts 
the copper in your area you are in real trouble as they may not know who did it 
for hours. 
We lost all communications in the San Jose area earlier this year as a result 
of a cable being cut by an angry employee. no 911 service either. 


--- On Tue, 11/24/09, Nate Duehr <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Nate Duehr <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] setting up a repeater for dispatch
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 1:43 PM










        

 











Time for my favorite rant -- pardon me for a moment:
 
The more important point for putting Public Safety on IP networks (of any sort) 
is that the IP link has MONITORING built in. 
 
Most (even so-called "Public Safety ready") IP linking systems DO NOT have ANY 
way to notify the dispatcher that their transmissions are NOT going out over 
the air, or that the link coming in from the field radio units is down.
 
VoIP/RoIP is "cheap" but you get what you pay for.  Engineering it properly and 
MONITORING the links is essential, since lives are on the line.
 
I helped some folks test the very early EF Johnson Ethernet ports on the back 
of their repeaters, and custom "dispatch" software that tied a headset on the 
sound card on a PC to the repeater(s).  The system used Multicast IP (mistake 
number one), UDP (maybe mistake number two), and when I said, "Unplug the 
Ethernet jack from the repeater" while the dispatch console was 
"transmitting"... there was ZERO alarm indication ANYWHERE to tell either the 
dispatcher, the officers in the field, or the technicians -- THAT THE SYSTEM 
WAS DOWN.
 
This problem is by no means limited to EFJ, it's just the one I saw in person 
on a test bench with my own two eyes. RoIP engineers need to pull their heads 
out of their you-know-what's, and start THINKING again.  RF links had a 
continuous tone on them in most systems for a REASON -- the link was DESIGNED 
to be continuously monitored by a dry-alarm contact at both ends. 
 
Whether or not the system engineer actually took the time/money/effort to USE 
those dry-contacts and alarms in their system plan, is a whole different story. 
 But most RoIP implementations DON'T EVEN HAVE THEM.
 
Avoid any that don't.  Engineering done properly will pay off later.  Just 
because government agencies can't be sued for liability (who's bright idea was 
THAT?), doesn't mean the system engineer should do anything less than the best 
job possible for the officers in the field attempting to contact someone for 
help.
 
RoIP/VoIP is "gee whiz" technology when it provides a link that would otherwise 
be cost-prohibitive or impossible due to terrain.  It's "oh shit!" technology 
when it fails and no one in the dispatch center knows it's down.  "Hero to 
zero" in one second flat. 
 
BUILD NETWORK MONITORING INTO YOUR VOIP/ROIP APPLICATIONS PLEASE. 
 
Done with my rant... if it doesn't apply to the technology you've chosen, 
ignore.  If there are those reading along who just had an "oh shit!" moment 
thinking about their VoIP/RoIP network that's already deployed... go write up 
that budget request for monitoring and FIX IT... now.  Before your bouncing IP 
link someday kills someone.
--
  Nate Duehr, WY0X
  [email protected]

                









    
    










      

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