Hi Geret,
 I have some friends in Sweden that use something like this, no one seemed to 
know what freq they were on. When a few of them came here to the US we were 
talking about this and I showed them my Motorola GM 68, ICOM U16 and GE MPI II 
and GE PCS radios I have on GMRS. They loved the range of these and wondered if 
they could use something like this back in Sweden. I looked all over the 
Internet for information about this and could not find a thing. But now you 
mention PMR, I am going to focus my research there. 

Where in the UE are you by the way?
 Many thanks for all  that good info!

 Richard 

 



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From: Geert Jan de Groot <pe1...@xs4all.nl>
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:34:56 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: license-free radios 
<1272619009.275.56317...@yahoogroups.com>

  
> While this one is not a huge problem, it happens too. Visitors come to Las
> Vegas from a lot of foreign countries. People in the UK have whats called
> "PMR" radios. It's their FRS service. The radios are all simplex, 8 channels
> on 6.25Khz splinter channels starting at 446.000 !!!! Yep! if you scan those
> channels here you DO hear activity on them!

For the record, most countries in EU have license-free radios in
3 frequency ranges:
- LPD (Low Power Device), 10mW, 433.075 - 434.775, 
68 channels in 25 kHz raster.
Not so polular beacuse 10mW doesn't get far in cities
- PMR (Public Mobile Radio), 500 mW, 446.000-446. 100,
8 channels in 12.5 kHz raster:
1 446.00625
2 446.01875
3 446.03125
4 446.04375
5 446.05625
6 446.06875
7 446.08125
8 446.09375
These radios generally have PL support.
Note that in EU, the 70cm band is 430.440 MHz so it is out of
our bands here.
These things are VERY popular - recently bought 2 radios for
$35 together with charger and NiMh cells!
- Digital PMR, 500 mW, 446.100-446. 200,
This is like the analog PMR but uses digital voice (this is what
ICOM developed D-STAR for)

Note that the American FRS/GMRS radios are simply illegal here, as
these frequencies were used by law enforcement till recently
(so not a good choice even to "chance it").

You indeed might want to take this into account when setting up
repeater frequencies.

Hope this helps,

Geert Jan PE1HZG





      

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