Hi Geret, I have some friends in Sweden that use something like this, no one seemed to know what freq they were on. When a few of them came here to the US we were talking about this and I showed them my Motorola GM 68, ICOM U16 and GE MPI II and GE PCS radios I have on GMRS. They loved the range of these and wondered if they could use something like this back in Sweden. I looked all over the Internet for information about this and could not find a thing. But now you mention PMR, I am going to focus my research there.
Where in the UE are you by the way? Many thanks for all that good info! Richard ________________________________ From: Geert Jan de Groot <pe1...@xs4all.nl> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:34:56 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: license-free radios <1272619009.275.56317...@yahoogroups.com> > While this one is not a huge problem, it happens too. Visitors come to Las > Vegas from a lot of foreign countries. People in the UK have whats called > "PMR" radios. It's their FRS service. The radios are all simplex, 8 channels > on 6.25Khz splinter channels starting at 446.000 !!!! Yep! if you scan those > channels here you DO hear activity on them! For the record, most countries in EU have license-free radios in 3 frequency ranges: - LPD (Low Power Device), 10mW, 433.075 - 434.775, 68 channels in 25 kHz raster. Not so polular beacuse 10mW doesn't get far in cities - PMR (Public Mobile Radio), 500 mW, 446.000-446. 100, 8 channels in 12.5 kHz raster: 1 446.00625 2 446.01875 3 446.03125 4 446.04375 5 446.05625 6 446.06875 7 446.08125 8 446.09375 These radios generally have PL support. Note that in EU, the 70cm band is 430.440 MHz so it is out of our bands here. These things are VERY popular - recently bought 2 radios for $35 together with charger and NiMh cells! - Digital PMR, 500 mW, 446.100-446. 200, This is like the analog PMR but uses digital voice (this is what ICOM developed D-STAR for) Note that the American FRS/GMRS radios are simply illegal here, as these frequencies were used by law enforcement till recently (so not a good choice even to "chance it"). You indeed might want to take this into account when setting up repeater frequencies. Hope this helps, Geert Jan PE1HZG