Dual SIM is not a must but is it an awesome feature to have on a dumbphone. But i'd take fully free any day over blobs.What package would the game have to be in to install? If i'm lucky it probably already exists. Which would then bring up how wqould one go about installing on a dumbphone? I think you should consider some of the ideas,that way your dumbphone would at least impress others. For instance,will it have a flashlight? A dumbphone ain't a dumbphone without a flashlight.
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Spacefalcon the Outlaw < fal...@ivan.harhan.org> wrote: > Allan Mwenda <allanitomw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Could you get a simple game on there like tower of hanoi? That would > rock. > > Because I do not expect to make any money on this project and am doing > it primarily for my own personal use instead, I do not plan on > implementing any UI firmware features other than those I need for my > own use, and games aren't among the latter. > > However, the *complete C source code* for the entire firmware, both > the UI and the radio protocol layers, will be freely published, so if > you want some game or whatever, you can implement it yourself, or hire > any C programmer of your choice to implement it for you. > > When you buy a PC or a laptop, do you insist that the hardware > manufacturer ship it to you with some particular game or whatever > installed, or else you won't buy? I expect not, as that would be > rather silly - you can just sudo apt-get install whatever you like. > > It should be the same with phones, including dumbphones. I realize > that most people currently cannot fathom the idea of modifying the > UI/UX (user experience) firmware on their dumbphones to their own > liking, and are similarly incapable of distinguishing between hardware > and firmware features - that's because up until now *no one* has made > a dumbphone with free firmware. But that situation is about to > change. > > > And Dual SIM too, > > How important is this feature to you? Is it more important than > freedom? Is it more important to you than having the radio firmware > in full source code form? > > At the present time the only GSM baseband chipsets for which We the > People possess the radio firmware source code are TI Calypso and TI > LoCosto. I am currently building a reusable modem module based on the > former; I will then use this module to build my Free Dumb Phone, but > anyone else is also welcome to take my free GSM modem module and use > it in their free smartphone design. However, these TI chipsets are > absolutely incapable, in hardware terms, of supporting more than one > SIM socket. > > All those dual SIM phones use MTK or Spreadtrum chips instead. There > are some MTK semi-sources floating around, see: > > ftp://ftp.ifctf.org/pub/GSM/MTK/ > > However, code for the GSM radio protocols and many other interesting > things is in the form of object blobs, not actual source. Thus the > older, non-dual-SIM-capable TI chipsets are the only ones for which we > have the full source for everything. > > So given a choice between a single SIM phone with fully free firmware > and a dual SIM phone whose fw is at least partially closed and > proprietary (because fully free fw is not currently possible on the > dual-SIM-capable chipsets), which would you choose? > > For my own personal use I want a dumbphone with the TI Calypso chipset > running fully liberated firmware. Hence the phone I'm building will > only have one SIM socket. > > > Unless you are doing something illegal what does it matter if the > > telecom company read your texts to your girlfriend? > > I certainly do wish for an end-to-end encrypted mode of communication, > both voice and text. This functionality can be implemented over > mobile-to-mobile transparent CSD (circuit switched data) calls, which > work just fine in my part of the world, and I estimate that it will > probably be possible to implement this functionality on a Calypso > dumbphone. However, I won't even start seriously looking into it > until *after* I have built a basic Free Dumb Phone. > > > I think this dumbphone will be awesome. > > It will certainly be awesome *for me*, but considering that every > person with whom I have conversed on this subject wants (or seems to > want) something very different from what I'm building, I really don't > know if anyone other than me would want to use the phone which I will > actually produce. > > But that's OK: I am building this Free Dumb Phone for my own personal > use, not to please anyone else. It is simply not possible to please > everyone, and my own needs come first - it's called scratching a > personal itch, the primary motivating factor for all FOSS development. > > SF >
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