Thanks for explaining!  I agree.

/Simon

Vagrant Cascadian <[email protected]> writes:

> On 2026-03-13, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>> Would it be useful to only send these e-mails when some additional
>> information is available to allow further debugging?
>
> I suspect the script used currently is rather simplistic, so it might be
> a lot of complicated work to get that extra level of functionality for
> the hopefully infrequent cases of missing diffoscope output, build logs,
> etc. which we would generally prefer to fix at the source if
> possible. It might even lead to another level of complications which
> introduce additional issues in the reporting process...
>
>
>> Right now all I can see below is two build logs, but that is not
>> sufficient for me to debug further or resolv this.
>>
>> Diffoscope output between the packages is what is normally is required.
>
> Indeed.
>
> If there is a problem (and not just a fluke glitch), generally one would
> need to figure out how to test it locally as well, including running
> diffoscope...
>
>
>> I've rescheduled the reproducible build, so maybe it appears later on.
>
> Looks like the rescheduled builds succeeded, at least!
>
>
>> I don't understand when diffoscope output appears on
>> tests.reproducible-builds.org, and when it doesn't.  It seems somewhat
>> random to me, but there is probably some logic behind it.
>
> There can be a large and wide variety of causes, some of which are
> non-deterministic ... e.g. the current load level of the system running
> diffoscope might trigger timeouts, a job that triggers out-of-disk
> errors (possibly indirectly breaking other diffoscope jobs), a poorly
> timed system reboot...
>
> Some inputs consistently cause problems for diffoscope, but *most* of
> these issues are infrequent and intermittant...
>
>
> live well,
>   vagrant
>

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