On 2017-01-16 11:26, Santiago Vila wrote:
Before I use this rationale more times in some discussions out there, I'd
like to be sure that there is a consensus.

What's the definition of reproducible? It is more like A or more like B?

A. Every time the package is attempted to build, the build succeeds,
and the same .deb are always created.

I may be wrong, but I believe that it's not possible to guarantee that the build succeeds every single time, even once we've locked all inputs to be in a known state. Cosmic rays would be one potential breakage, or corruption of a built intermediate artifact etc.

B. Every time the build is attempted and the builds succeeds, the
same .deb are always created.

So I expect this is likely to be more viable than your A.

However, for a given set of inputs (including tooling) that are known to create a successful build once, they should always succeed provided there are no infrastructure glitches.

I'd also say that reproducibility shouldn't be .deb specific. Other projects are seeking bit-for-bit reproducibility with other packaging mechanisms. So I'd replace "the same .deb" with the same binary artifacts"

br
Paul

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