We're currently addressing this problem by creating a base-channel (i.e. 5.4) 
on our Satellite and then using  the errata lists at 
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/ to determine the appropriate ones to apply to 
these "baseline" systems.  If you're using RHN Satellite then you may want to 
look at http://people.redhat.com/bholden/scripts/create-release/ as it matches 
the release manifest and creates a baseline channel.  Once you have that, clone 
it to a new channel and apply the appropriate errata to the channel(s). Once 
that's done, simply move existing systems to that channel and get the 
appropriate updates applied.

It's either that or join a test system back to the Main Red Hat channel and 
manually determine which errata get applied - however this can be tricky (and 
time-consuming) at best.

--Tim


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of James Harrison
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:21
To: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (Tikanga) discussion mailing-list
Subject: Re: [rhelv5-list] Updating to specific release of redhat

Hi,

The reason we need specific versions, is that 3rd party software vendors don't 
move as fast as Red Hat updates they OS.

Take for example IBM's WebSphere MQ and Broker software for Linux. With the Red 
Hat they still only support up to RHEL 4.5. We cannot upgrade our systems in 
fear of updating to 5.5. Updating to 5.5 would make any support with IBM 
pointless.

For newly installed machines with 5.4, we cannot get the latest 5.4 updates, 
because we will automatically move to 5.5.

It would be very useful if there was a method of updating without moving to the 
next release.

James Harrison

________________________________
From: Bryan J Smith <[email protected]>
To: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (Tikanga) discussion mailing-list 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 9:51:24 AM
Subject: Re: [rhelv5-list] Updating to specific release of redhat

Is there are a reason you are limiting your update to Red Hat Enterprise Linux
Release 5 Update 2 (5.2)?

Just keep several things in mind ...

1)  The DVD will only have the bugfix and security errata applied through that
update

Red Hat Enterprise Linux Release 5 Update 2 (5.2) is over two (2) full years old
(2008 May)

2)  Running an older update is no longer current with engineering and new errata

Red Hat Enterprise Linux Release 5 Update 5 (5.5) is current release update
(2010 March),
and errata, support and other services will be focused on this release.  Unless
your organization
has a known certification and support issue with 3rd party solutions, this
should be the release
update your organization should be running.

3)  Red Hat offers Extended Update Support (EUS) for older release update
support

#3 allows customers with independent software vendor (ISV) or other
certification
lifecycle issues to remain several releases updates back.  Only limited security
updates are
built for these older updates, and only for several updates back.

The current EUS offerings for Red Hat Enterprsie Linux Release 5 include ...
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux Release 5 Update 3 (EUS 5.3.z)
  http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rhel-server-5.3-errata.html
- Red Hat Enterprise Linux Release 5 Update 4 (EUS 5.4.z)
  http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rhel-server-5.4-errata.html
In addition to the current 5.5 (and EUS 5.5.z)
  http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rhel-server-errata.html

The EUS support for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 Update 2 (EUS 5.2.z) ended in
March:

  http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rhel-server-5.2-errata.html

As you'll note, there have been several security errata issue since that time.

Red Hat Enterprise Linux releases are designed to maintain ABI/API
compatibility,
ISV software compatibility and eliminate (or at least mitigate) regressions in
upstream
software by backporting security and bugfixes, instead of rebasing to new
versions.
  http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/backporting/

This is one of the major values of the Red Hat Enterprise Linux subscription.
As such, updating to the latest Update is typically not an issue, unlike other,
popular OSes.

Sustaining engineering is a primary focus of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, not
pushing consumers
to always upgrade for features and, correspondingly, more sales.  Likewise, any
subscription
entitles the customer to any release, including newer versions that were not
released at the
time of the original purchase of the subscription, removing the feature v.
compatibility delima
(let alone added costs) for the customer.



----- Original Message ----
From: Nick Lunt 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (Tikanga) discussion mailing-list
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 9:06:22 AM
Subject: Re: [rhelv5-list] Updating to specific release of redhat

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
> [mailto:rhelv5-list-
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: 27 July 2010 13:59
> To: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (Tikanga) discussion mailing-list
> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [rhelv5-list] Updating to specific release of redhat
>
> > Hi folks
> > got a box running RH5.0 which I need to update to RH5.2.
> > Can this be done with yum or do I have to download RH5.2 and rpm -
> > Uvh the 5.2 rpms ?
>
> The way I've always done it has been to download the DVD, and host it
> as a yum repo locally.  Going with rpm -Uvh could be a pain if there are
> any package additions or replacements, and probably to many packages to do
> at once.

Sounds like a good plan, thanks Greg.

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