----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alois Treindl" <[email protected]> > To: "Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 (Santiago) discussion mailing-list" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 1:43:11 PM > Subject: Re: [rhelv6-list] how to remove 'shot down' from system menu? > > I find it a terrible mistake by Redhat to install an unmodified GNOME > with shutdown permission for non-root users. > > We run our company server with about 10 X-terminals used by office > staff. The server needs to run permanently, but the X-terminals are > just > used during office hours by non-technical staff. > > The x-terminals use the Gnome desktop of the server via XDMCP. We > have > used this setup since many years, first with HP-UX, since eight years > with various versions of RHEL. The server is physically remote in a > server room. > > It is an excellent solution, low maintenance, adequate performance > for > office work. > > Please don't tell me we should use a local window manager on the > x-terminals. These are horrible monsters. We like the desktop offered > by > RHEL. > > Such an x-terminal user, when he/she wants to logout and turn off > the > x-terminal, will easily make a mistake to 'shut down' the server if > this > option is offered as it is, and not even protected by the root > password. > > I found an article describing a solution: > http://www.shaunrowland.com/fsync/2011/04/20/removing-shut-down-from-the-gnome-panel-in-rhel-6/ > But when you read through this, you notice how complex it is. And > each > gnome update will overwrite the special configuration it is. A design > fault by Gnome, I agree with the author. > Redhat should not have accepted this design fault on their system. > > We will switch back to KDE desktop, after using Gnome since RHEL5. > KDE > at least has no such stupid power-down by normal users. As the KDE > konsole terminal is finally able to handle utf8 properly, including > Asian languages with good fonts, as gnome-terminal did since a long > time > already, there is no string reason to stick with gnome now. > > > On 10/05/2011 03:10 PM, Prentice Bisbal wrote: > > Alois, > > > > If users have physical access to the systems and can hit the power > > button or unplug the system, I strongly recommend that you leave > > the > > shutdown option on the start menu. If a user is determined to > > shutdown/reboot a computer, I would much rather they shut it down > > gracefully by using the shutdown command than doing it harshly buy > > holding the power button or unplugging the system, which can lead > > to a > > host of other problems. > > > > -- > > Prentice > > > > > > On 10/05/2011 08:49 AM, Horst Severini wrote: > >> Hi Alois, > >> > >> I'm not sure there is a way to remove that, and I'm not sure it > >> makes too > >> much sense to look too hard for it, either, since when someone is > >> sitting > >> right in front of a computer, they can (a) shut it down from the > >> login screen, > >> or (b) press the power button or (c) unplug the power cord, so in > >> my mind > >> it doesn't much matter if you eliminate one way to shut it down > >> when > >> there are several other you can't eliminate. > >> > >> Just my 2c, > >> > >> Horst > >> > >> Alois Treindl<[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> I have recently installed RHEL6 with GNOME desktop. > >>> > >>> In each user's menu appeasr under the entry 'System' also to item > >>> 'Shut > >>> down' > >>> > >>> I would like to remove this item for all users except root. > >>> In fact normal users can use this link to shut down the system, > >>> they are > >>> not asked for root password. I do not know how this can happen? > >>> Where can I at least configure that they are asked the root > >>> password for > >>> shutdown? > >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rhelv6-list mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhelv6-list > > > -- > || Alois Treindl, Astrodienst AG, mailto:[email protected] > || Zollikon/Zurich, Switzerland > || Free astrological charts at http://www.astro.com/ > || SWISS EPHEMERIS Free Edition at http://www.astro.com/swisseph/ > > _______________________________________________ > rhelv6-list mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhelv6-list >
Have you actually tried to shutdown the system while logged in with a regular account over an XDMCP connection? I know that using other non local console methods of using Gnome like VNC and NoMachine will not allow the system to be rebooted or shutdown. David. _______________________________________________ rhelv6-list mailing list [email protected] https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rhelv6-list
