================== FIGHT THE RIGHT! ================== The UN < is a body to which nations states belong and they (or rather the Security Council) decide what it will do>:
None belongs to the UN. This "belonging" a very notion of the UN bureaucracy-"makers of history" driven with and acting for very national interests where natural resources and monopolies dictate. As usual, conclusions of some self-declared academics, in Australia for instance frequently, do not reflect elementary reality gained with hands-on experience rather than from imaginations. Garth Cartledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ================== FIGHT THE RIGHT! ================== At 02:55 PM 12/5/2004, Michael Kerjman wrote: >As seen from a far-away, a recent US politician's call for change is NOT >silly and stupid, but a generous attempt to tackle an issue by an American >way, appealing to some MORAL principles. > With the utmost of respect, America is not ruled by moral principles. Abhu Ghraib, Falluja, Guantanamo Bay, My Lai, the Florida voting system, the US Vice President having hundreds of thousands of shares in a company (Haliburton) which gets exclusive government contracts arising out of an illegal and immoral war that his administration pushed for regardless of right or wrong (in 2003 when it looked as though Saddam Hussein might resign in order to satisfy US demands Bush said it did not matter what Saddam did he would invade), 1900 (odd) freeing the Philippines from the Spanish only take it over as US Empire (killing thousands of Filipinos in the course of this), - one could go on forever with items that counteract the claim to moral rectitude - and one could go on pointing to moral actions and attitudes of the other 190 odd nations of the world (well most of them anyway). Moreover, contrary to what is implied here, America certainly has no greater claim to morality than most other nations which have a genuinely democratic form of government. This is why people dislike America so much - this offensive assumption of moral rectitude/superiority and the arrogant projection that only America has any real moral standards, both of which are generally based upon an appalling ignorance of anything outside the US. But I suppose with the Media that the US has that is understandable. This type of thing does more harm as it alienates the friends of the US. This is one for the self indulgent "Why do they hate us" school. The only real superiority the US has is its military and economic might which allows it to throw its weight around. Certainly there are faults in the UN but the UN is only as good as its members allow it to be. It is a body to which nations states belong and they (or rather the Security Council) decide what it will do. Annan and the bureaucracy that sit in New York and Geneva are only secretariat, a bureaucracy which runs the continuing programmes of aid and, when called upon by some large operation called for by the Security Council, provide the framework to build the organization with contingents supplied by those countries who are willing to do so. It is not a world government - if it was it would have stopped the US invading Iraq. It is, however imperfect, the first real hope for a place the world can use to avoid conflicts - it was a place where nations could look beyond their narrow selfish ends at the bigger picture or rather it was until America said we don't care, we want our war regardless of what damage we do to world security. And, if you look back over the relationship of the US and UN there has always been an element in Congress that wants to disband/do away with the UN. But that is not new - in 1919 President Wilson forced the other nations to agree to form the League of Nations (for collective security) the US Congress scuttled it by refusing to ratify thereby letting the then aggressor nations such a Japan see that there was no effective collective security - that the law of big battalions ruled. So we had WWII. If you know anything about the UN or its predecessor, or had read their Charters you would know that they were based on moral principles - better ones than those currently governing the US. ___________________________ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. ----- / o o \ ===OO=====OO================================================== 4 Portals - 2 News Wikis - 2 Conferences -- No BuSHIT! It all starts here: - http://pnews.org/ (Internet since 1982) http://pnews.org/PhpWiki/ (West Coast News Wiki) http://g0lem.net/PhpWiki/ (East Coast News Wiki) ============================================================== RHETORIC/PNEWS-L Subscription/Unsub information: http://pnews.org/signup.shtml - ALL LINKS: http://pnews.org/ ==============================================================