>Likelihood and/or the free R-factor offer routes to choose restraint 
>weights...


I don't exclude a potential possibility for an efficient, reasonable and 
profitable application of even such dirty tricks as soft restraints. Also I'm 
sure that a hypothetical opportunity exists for a method of choosing most 
robust and safe weights of restraints. Yet all these requisites are not 
observed in the current SDPD practice.


>I'm not against constraints, but how do you go about validating somebody 
>else's choice of rigid definition?


Validation is a manifold issue similarly complex both for softly-restrained and 
for free+constrained refinement. Fortunately, some positive practice has been 
developed in the "last ~100 years of crystallography" using rigid-body 
fragments.

 
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Leonid A. Solovyov
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 From: Jonathan WRIGHT <wri...@esrf.fr>
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Cc: Leonid Solovyov <l_solov...@yahoo.com>; "rietveld_l@ill.fr" 
<rietveld_l@ill.fr> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [sdpd] Re: Are restraints as good as observations ?
 

On 31/07/2013 17:25, Leonid Solovyov wrote:
> One can make everything "OK" simply by choosing an "appropriate" weight
> of restraints. The uncertainty in the restraint's weight appropriateness
> makes every restrained refinement a "know how".

Likelihood and/or the free R-factor offer routes to choose restraint 
weights, see eg:

http://www-structmed.cimr.cam.ac.uk/Course/Likelihood/likelihood.html#restraints
http://people.cryst.bbk.ac.uk/~tickle/rfree/paper.html

Regardless of the weighting chosen, the weighted difference which comes 
back (per restraint) tells you what the data think about the restraint 
target value. This information could be deposited along with the fit to 
the powder data for all to see.

I'm not against constraints, but how do you go about validating somebody 
else's choice of rigid definition?

Cheers,

Jon
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