Which ASN does this relate to ? Colin
Sent from my iPod > On 2 Jul 2024, at 11:13, Ernst J. Oud <ernst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Grzegorz, > > Are these software of hardware probes? If hardware then the “experiment” they > are used in has cost RIPE funds for the hardware. In my opinion that is worse > than using SW probes. > > Regards, > > Ernst J. Oud > > > Met vriendelijke groet, > > Ernst J. Oud >>> On 2 Jul 2024, at 11:38, Ponikierski, Grzegorz via ripe-atlas >>> <ripe-atlas@ripe.net> wrote: >>> >> >> Hi all! >> >> I discovered a disturbing practice how RIPE Atlas probes are used by at >> least one major provider which significantly impacts measurement results and >> interpretation of these results. I want to share it with you to open discuss >> about how to deal with such cases. >> >> I was doing traceroutes for one of Tier 1 provider which is very well >> covered by RIPE Atlas probes. I was surprised, that for some probes I got >> RTTs 100x worse than expected. After verification I discovered that routing >> for these probes is absurd and contact the provider to explain it. It turned >> out, that these probes are deployed in this part of their network that >> provide for some kind of internal service which is not provided for >> customers of this provider. In other words, these probes don't measure >> production network, but they measure some kind of hidden experimental >> network not available for the public. >> >> In my private opinion, this practice is against the whole idea of RIPE >> Atlas, and it is a form of appropriation of the platform for solely private >> purpose disregarding interest of the RIPE Atlas community. As far I >> understand, RIPE Atlas supposed to be used to measure public Internet and it >> was not prepared to be used as internal/private measurement platform. RIPE >> Atlas probes are not tagged and separated into groups that can be used >> appropriately for public and internal/private measurements. Therefore, >> descripted practice creates another uncomfortable situation for RIPE Atlas >> user because there is no way to tell which probe is deployed in >> public/production part of the network and which one in the >> experimental/non-production one. I guess that most of us want to measure >> production networks and if there is somebody that want to play with >> experimental stuff then it should be clearly marked as experimental. >> >> Please share your thoughts and ideas how to deal with it. >> >> Regards, >> Grzegorz Ponikierski >> Senior Network Engineer >> Akamai Technologies >> AS20940 >> -- >> ripe-atlas mailing list >> ripe-atlas@ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-atlas > -- > ripe-atlas mailing list > ripe-atlas@ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/ripe-atlas
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