Hi Gert,

Yes, but not *all those that participated in the discussion and opposed to the 
proposal* did the same. So, it is not an accusation, it is just *facts*.

Again, not take this as "because this specific appeal": This proposal was 
written *before* the appeal, just looking in to the appeal section of the 
RIPE-710. That must be very clear.

What I'm saying is that the actual PDP doesn't enforce all the chairs having 
participated (or even worst opposed) to the proposal, to recuse themselves. It 
also doesn't allow the authors of the policy proposal to recuse some of the 
chairs, which clearly it is a situation that can play against them. You don't 
know the "personal or business" motivations that a cochair can have against a 
proposal or authors. It is not rational to allow them to participate.

*The same in the other way around*. It is not rational that if my best friend 
is going to participate in the appeal is allowed to participate.

The actual wording "allows" them (both sides) to recuse themselves, but not 
enforce that (if they don't disclose their personal or business motivations may 
be nobody knows or only the proposal authors know).


Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 8/2/21 11:33, "ripe-list en nombre de Gert Doering" 
<ripe-list-boun...@ripe.net en nombre de g...@space.net> escribió:

    Hi,

    On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 09:28:31AM +0100, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via 
ripe-list wrote:
    > [Jordi] It has not been the case in the first appeal we had. Chairs that 
    > participated in the discussion, so voiced their opinion against the 
    > proposal discussion (and of course I agree they should do it), haven't 
    > recused themselves. 

    Now this is an interesting accusation.

    From what *I* recall, quite a number of WG chairs (me among them) recused
    themselves because of (real or perceived) neutrality issues.

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