sdevans Wrote: 
> Any progress you manage to make on this for SB1 users would be most
> appreciated. I've written it on my whiteboard and hope to find a few hours to
experiment with it soon!  I believe the SB1 requires that FLAC is
decoded to WAV on the server, so the best way to do this will almost
certainly be to write a small utility for bit-twiddling on the fly. 
(This is preferable to adding an option to spdifconvert, as I'd prefer
that the files produced by the utility are known to be correct for
SB2.)

It's possible that we'll run into the speed problem with WAV though...
but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it!

> I did a test last week of some software for extracting surround sound
> for playback on the Squeezebox, but somehow my posting dissappeared.
> For the record I'll repeat what I found out.
> 
> I used DVD Audio Extractor (shareware / 30-day trial) which provides a
> nice interface for selecting audio stream and directly converting or
> de-muxing (?) to a variety of formats. 
> 
> It pulled the stereo soundtrack of my concert DVD just fine (at 48Khz
> as I later found out), and would convert both the Dolby and DTS
> soundtracks to multi-channel WAV/OGG/FLAC files too. They all played
> back in foobar2000 fine, but I don't know if the extra channels played
> proper as I only have a 2 speaker setup on the PC. 
> 
> The multi-channel ogg and wav files refused to play at all on the
> squeezebox (ripped from either DTS or DOLBY), but the FLAC files did
> playback (when converted from 48Khz to 44Khz) but at a really slow
> speed (don't know if it was fifth/sixth speed).What bitrate were the WAVs?  A 
> 48kHz 16-bit stereo WAV should be
1536kbit/s; if you've got 4608kbit/s then you have a 6-channel WAV, and
your software would need to know how to output multi-channel sound
(through your soundcard's 6 analogue outputs).

I don't think the Squeezebox can handle such files.

It sounds like DVD Audio Extractor is indeed demultiplexing the
soundtracks: decoding them to 6 channels of data and writing the
separate streams to a file.  The spdifconvert utility takes a different
approach: it essentially retains the original data from the DD/DTS
soundtrack, and makes it possible for an SB2 to pass it on to your amp.
All the decoding of the (original) multi-channel format will therefore
occur within your receiver.

See if you can get DVD Audio Extractor to give you an AC3 or DTS file. 
You can convert that with spdifconvert, and that just leaves the unique
SB1 problem to solve.
> Obviously the software's no good for DTS-CDs which is what I'm really
> looking for, but I think that just requires a fix to the squeezebox or
> tweaking of the conventionally ripped track?Either would do, but I think the 
> SB1 firmware is fixed now so the track
itself would need to be tweaked.  You can rip it as usual (with EAC,
CDEX, etc) and encode it to FLAC or some other lossless format.  If you
were to play it on an SB2 (subject to the configuration tips listed in
the guide) it would pass the DTS stream through; on an SB1 we come back
to the need to invert something.


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