OK, so I have a similar situation that came up while I was out on vacation. WE are a contemporary christian station and have a teen top 40 music group that starts playing at 3pm, but contains some songs the management has deemed "too Heavy" to be played during drive time (before 6PM). so the Music Director (who makes all the clocks and logs) tried to setup those carts as dayparts, which worked, but with some caveats that d not seem right to me, perhaps we have overlooked a setting or can you confirm that this is the normal behavior for dayparting (it seems to me to be wrong, but I don't have a huge radio background so what do I know ;) ):
1: The songs that have been dayprted will still be scheduled (by rivendell's built in scheduler) to play when they should not, but the actual audio will not play, so the cart is skipped and this throws the timing off. 2: If you try to voicetrack a segment that should be airing in a valid time, but are trying to record it during an invalid time, the audio will show as not available and won't play. this seems quite useless, if one is trying to VT the 6 o'clock hour for instance. we usually have someone live during these times, but sometimes it is not possible. All music is 1 cut per cart, and I think the problem is that daypart is a cut setting, not a cart setting. Perhaps adding a tenth of a second of silence as a cut in these carts would work for problem 1? Doesn't seem very elegant. It would be better if the system would see that the only cut (or all cuts) are dayparted and not schedule it to play when it should not. not sure how to fix problem 2. Aslo If you could set a rule that says don't play before (time) and after (time)then it could be done by scheduler code. or if in the event you could saymust be Teen top 40 and must not be (scheduler code) (and multiple codes in the must be, would be nice too) I know we could rework the clocks and make a new group for after 6 but MD doesn't want to mess with the TOP40 group and have a separate much smaller group with an odd rotation, and I can see his point. In my mind, it would seem that if a song is dayparted, it should not be scheduled when it can't play, and you should still be able to voice track it at anytime. Surely we can not be unique here, what are you guys doing like this? Nathaniel C. Steele Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM On 7/19/2012 7:27 AM, Wayne Merricks wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the info, really appreciated from all who replied. I got > sent this from Robert without the list being looped in but I think it > explains the system really well so I hope he doesn't mind me cc'ing the > list back into this. > > To be honest I was thinking ahead of myself yesterday with more of a > "what if" scenario. Most of the templates I'm setting up are based on a > very old Dalet system thats been running about 20 years now so theres a > lot of strangeness in the schedules I'm trying to clean up as I go. > > The only things that I can see that requires more categories on my part > is we have a late show that concentrates on older music and some > traditional Indian folk music. > > Then we have religious content at times and they tend to frown upon > certain types of music played at that time. > > Other than that we're just aiming for a decent mix, I'll definitely be > taking on board advice received. I've got the fun task of "training" > staff over the next few weeks "joy!" > > > Wayne Merricks > The Voice Asia > > On 18/07/12 21:38, Robert Jeffares wrote: >> I read your post with interest and I can see that you have the idea of >> micro scheduling every song in the library. >> >> This can result in a song by a ten year old left handed girl with a lisp >> scheduling at the same time every /hour/day/week >> >> There are formats where the listeners can tell you what song will play >> next. >> >> >> >> I use the rivendell scheduler and a system outlined to me by an old >> broadcaster in the 60's which was manual then, but translates easily >> >> I have and use a system where all songs are placed in one of four >> categories >> SINGLE strong song good intro starts the set 15% >> OLDIE older strong song usually with not so great intro but good for >> segue 15% >> ALBUM 50% of my library are great cuts you just hear now and then >> PLAYLIST the songs that 'brand' the station 20% >> >> and we schedule 4 events in a row, sometimes two followed by an ID >> followed by two. >> >> Using the scheduler codes we set dayparts for every song. They are 3 >> hour dayparts. >> >> We make clocks based on the dayparts >> >> Some material plays in only one daypart, like 7pm -10pm >> >> AND >> >> we set >> Tempo >> Genre >> And any other 'label' you can think of >> >> I then use the Scheduler rules in the clock to say >> >> No 'slow' after 'fast' >> >> 3 'slow' in a row but only every 20 songs >> >> 1 instrumental every 60 songs >> >> >> and any other rule you can dream up. I have a number >> >> >> Now more of my broadcast career has involved hand selected music than >> computer selected, and the 'good' programmers always thought about music >> flow in sets ... with tempo etc >> >> two-in-a-row and other contrived features are just that, and very few >> listeners rank this sort of stuff as a reason to listen. My stations are >> listenable because of the unpredictability. >> >> Most scheduling programs can be set so some songs always play and some >> never see the light of day. the RD scheduler lets you use the entire >> library. >> >> I have about 30,000 tracks in the system and I add a bunch every week. >> >> My listeners tell me when something clashes or seems out of place. >> >> And they call in with ideas 'why don't you play ... >> >> These are my ideas, and may be of help, or you can discard them. I think >> the RD scheduler can be used very effectively >> >> regards >> >> Robert Jeffares >> Big Valley Radio >> Thames >> >> >> > > > ####################### > Scanned by MailMarshal > ####################### > > ############ > > Attention: > > The information contained in this message is confidential and intended > for the addressee(s) only. 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