Thanks so much, Nathan.  I really appreciate the details with each step, as
that helps me learn.

I tried your command but I got an error of 'unknown variable'. I copied and
pasted from the email, so perhaps the spacing got thrown off.  I didn't
want to mess with it and break something, so I left things as they are for
now.  Here's my input and output :


[rd@icr-dj-desktop ~]$ mysqldump -u rduser -pletmein --locktables=false
Rivendell > /home/rd/20130130rd.sql
mysqldump: unknown variable 'locktables=false'
[rd@icr-dj-desktop ~]$

[rd@icr-dj-desktop ~]$ mysqldump -u rduser -pletmein--locktables=false
Rivendell > /home/rd/20130130rd.sql
mysqldump: unknown variable 'locktables=false'
[rd@icr-dj-desktop ~]$


Did I mistype something? I did try copying from the email and pasting a
second and third time.

Cheers,
Rene


On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Nathan Steele <nathan.ste...@thecrossfm.com
> wrote:

>  Is this in anyway related to our not being able to see anything in the
> GUI's Trash folder?
>
>
> I wouldn't think so, but I am no expert either.
>
> This worked for me from the terminal as root, not sure it was necessary to
> be root but it probably was or I wouldn't have done it....
>
> mysqldump -u rduser -pletmein --locktables=false Rivendell >
> /home/rd/20130110rd.sql
>
> I'll break it down as best I understand
>
> mysqldump the command to do the backup
> -u rduser the username to access mysql, this is the default if you
> areusing the broadcast appliance installation, otherwise it will be
> whatever you setup.
> -pletmein the password to login to mysql, again default on Broadcast
> appliance. the username and password are the same as what is specified in
> the rd.conf file also. not the lack of a space between the -p flag and the
> password is intentional. you can also just use -p but then it will ask you
> for the password.
> --locktables=false tells mysql not to lock the tables, which is what was
> causing you the error. so potentially the database could lose some things
> like if a song plays during the backup the play count could be off by one.
> maybe worse things could happen I don't know....
> Rivendell the database you wish to backup
> > /home/rd/20130110rd.sql tells where you want the backup to go, including
> what the file will be named. i use the date and add rd to remind me it is
> the rivendell database. note there is a space between > and the path.
>
>
> AS a curious side effect, the resulting backup shows as a 0kb file, but it
> actually is not and has data in it. not sure why
>
> If any f my info is wrong someone please correct me, but I had to do this
> during a recent server migration and it was a success.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Nathaniel C. Steele
> Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
> WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM
>
> On 1/29/2013 5:31 PM, ICR Programs wrote:
>
> Thanks again, to the best user list out there!
>
> Nathan, I can wait. I'll google it anyway to see what I can glean, but I
> am sooo far from a power user I don't want to break anything.
>
> Is this in anyway related to our not being able to see anything in the
> GUI's Trash folder?  We can only see if from the Terminal as in
>
> cd .Trash
> ls -al .....
>
> then I manually delete by using
>
> rm  *.*
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Nathan Steele <
> nathan.ste...@thecrossfm.com> wrote:
>
>>  I had the same problem, it has nothing to do with the 2.4.0 update.
>> Google mysql errno 24 and find out how to do a backup without lock tables
>> from the command line. IF you give me some time I'll tell you the command
>> that worked for me but I'll have to go find it in the history.
>>
>> Wish it would work right from RDadmin though.
>>
>> Nathaniel C. Steele
>> Assistant Chief Engineer/Technical Director
>> WTRM-FM / TheCrossFM
>>
>>  On 1/29/2013 5:17 PM, ICR Programs wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Wayne,
>>
>> The issue that worries me is this: I am not able to back up the
>> database.  I should be able to, shouldn't I?
>>
>> (this was using the Backup Database button on RDAdmin) and trying it from
>> command line (though I am not sure how to do that).
>>
>> And, the system wasn't 'live' in the sense that I didn't have RDAirplay
>> or any other Rivendell components running. I rebooted the system and then
>> tried all this.
>>
>> Any suggestions, please?
>>
>> thanks!
>> Rene
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:36 PM, waynemerricks <
>> waynemerri...@thevoiceasia.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To update the schema you just need to run RDAdmin.  From memory not
>>> much happens as far as the user is concerned (unless it dies in which
>>> case you get an error message).  As for the mysqldump error it failed
>>> because it couldn't lock the tables on a live system.  You can dump
>>> without lock tables but data integrity is not guaranteed as changes
>>> could have been made while the dump was running.
>>>
>>> Basically, business as usual but an off putting error message that
>>> makes you wonder.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>> On 2013-01-29 21:27, ICR Programs wrote:
>>> > Dear list members,
>>> >
>>> > Im sorry to basically post this same question again, but the thread
>>> > it
>>>  > was in went in another direction and I didnt want to get my query
>>> > "lost in the shuffle."
>>> >
>>> > What I did glean from the thread and a few other messages was that
>>>  > Apache may be at play here ... however, I dont know anything about
>>> > Apache or how/why it was affect our system such that we were able to
>>> > back up the Database before upgrading from 2.3.x to 2.4.0
>>> >
>>>  > Also, Im NOT sure about whether this is relevant, and indeed it was a
>>> > problem that cropped up BEFORE this v2.4.0 update, but whenever one
>>>  > moves a file to the trash (logged in as user rd) it doesnt appear in
>>> > the GUI in the Trash.  If one logs in via terminal, however, the
>>> > deleted files are there and one can expunge them from the system.  I
>>> > am guessing this is a permissions problem, but am mystified why it
>>> > would have happened.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks to all!
>>> > Rene
>>> >
>>> > Hello Fred and all,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for your work on the updates and indeed, the Rivendell System.
>>> >
>>> > I upgraded, but have what I hope is a slight problem.
>>> >
>>> > I used the Package Updater -- it had a notification up about the
>>> > updates -- and it installed fine.
>>> >
>>>  > I then opened RDAdmin, typed the user name "admin" and wasnt sure
>>> > what
>>> > to do next in order to update the database schema (which is now,
>>> > according to System Info, Rivendell Version 2.4.0; Database schema
>>> > 216).
>>> >
>>> > I did try to do a backup of the database, and that gave the error
>>> > "Unable to create backup"
>>> >
>>> > I then went to Terminal, typed "rddamin" and got this:
>>> >
>>> > Terminal Output:
>>> >
>>> > [rd@icr-dj-desktop ~]$ rdadmin
>>>  >  mysqldump: Got error: 1016: Cant open file:
>>> > ./Rivendell/Weekday_6_AM_CLK.frm (errno: 24) when using LOCK TABLES
>>> >
>>> >  What should I do now, please?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >  Rene
>>> >
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