I think I get it (in hopefully less than 10,000 words...)

> My impression is more that people aren't currently even scratching
> their itches. It's fine to talk about what should be done, but without
> someone actually doing the things nothing will happen.

I agree, I think that's true.  And you're saying that people need to
start doing that before thinking about a Grand Vision becomes relevant.

> My apologies if my tone was offensive.

You weren't, none are necessary.  :-)

> OK, great! In open source things typically only exist once you've
shared 
> them.

Which brings us back to a lack of patches being submitted...

> Of course you're free to do whatever you want here, but if you want
> results then my recommendation would be to follow this course of
> action at least for now.

That's good advice; advice that I'm going to take.  No promises on time
scales, my own itches are going to start getting scratched and
submitted.  Just submitting the patches to the JIRA is acceptable,
right?

Apologies if this discussion has been boring to everyone else, but I at
least have found it very useful for sorting out how (Apache) open source
projects work and how that differs from the paid world.

Thanks!

Tom

www.sucden.co.uk
Sucden (UK) Limited, 5 London Bridge Street, London SE1 9SG
Telephone +44 20 7940 9400
 
Registered in England no. 1095841
VAT registration no. GB 446 9061 33
Authorised and Regulated by the Financial Services Authority (FSA) and entered 
in the FSA register under no. 114239

This email, including any files transmitted with it, is confidential and may be 
privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If 
you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] immediately and delete it from your computer system.

We believe, but do not warrant, that this email and its attachments are 
virus-free, but you should check. 

Sucden (UK) Ltd may monitor traffic data of both business and personal emails. 
By replying to this email, you consent to Sucden’s monitoring the content of 
any emails you send to or receive from Sucden. Sucden is not liable for any 
opinions expressed by the sender where this is a non-business email.
The contents of this e-mail do not constitute advice and should not be regarded 
as a recommendation to buy, sell or otherwise deal with any particular 
investment.
This message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast.

Reply via email to