The time it takes to get JINI up and running is inevitable. It is due, I believe, to a few fundamental architectural missteps that can be fixed. The fix is not a problem. It is a solution. There are a number of people pointing at the same problem.

However, while open source teams are good at meeting systems engineering challenges, they can be really bad or at least not very good at meeting systems architecting challenges. This is evident in the conversation. You don't make a systems architect in a day. There is a reason why Congress had to mandate that aerospace companies use the resources of a non-profit systems architecture company (Aerospace Corporation) that was separated from their efforts.

Guidance based on architectural heuristics and models is not something that systems engineers typically embrace without a lot of reluctance and more rolling of the eyes. The people questioning the changes being discussed are less recalcitrant than usual. I am optimistic.

Mike


On Dec 11, 2008, at 4:36 AM, Calum Shaw-Mackay wrote:

To my mind - if you can't get something up and running within 10
minutes, no amount of 'but it's cool' will save you. Jini doesn't have
the groundswell that other projects have for instance Spring that will
keep a developer looking at it and the docs for a couple of hours
before they get something useful happening...

We have to get the 'download'-'edit'-'build'-'aha this is great, why
haven't I used this before' cycle down to as quick as possible.... it
took me a week of wrangling to go from Jini 1.2 to 2.0 - quite simply
it's not a good sign....

Yes Jini makes the hard network things easier - but working _with_
Jini should be made easier, and quicker in the first instance..... yes
we have all the security aspects and they're very good.... but you
can't drop new people into that quagmire straight away.... to be
honest, I think it's scaring people off

2008/12/11 Jools <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

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Topia Technology, Inc.
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