On Dec 21, 2008, at 3:52 PM, John Sarman wrote:

I think a great entry point for jini newbies would be a Web integration
via IDE plugin.

I think that the movement in significant networking proposals, which JavaSpaces and JINI certainly are, is toward fewer people with higher skills rather than more people with tool help. The Visual BASIC model is not gaining ground, in my opinion. Powerful, clean, best practices oriented projects, like Spring, for example, immediately attract a crowd.

JINI newbies who will actually use JINI are not likely in my opinion to be swayed by peripheral niceties. Not against these ideas, but rather just saying they won't fix what is broken.

Perhaps a good start would be to stop talking about solutions and to identify what the perceived problems/challenges with JINI/RIVEr are. A great solution to a non-problem is not really a solution at all. The heuristic "hard things first" comes to mind.

Mike




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