Just an update on the Jini.org domainname as well -- Sun decided
that they would register the domain for another year (to July 2010).
Thanks to Jim Waldo for tracking the right people down in Sun
to make that happen.
So we're clear for another year on that.
-Jim
On Jun 26, 2009, at 6:23 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
I'll contribute too, let's get that Paypal account going, what a
good idea ;)
I've recently spent some time going over some of the content on
jini.org and feel strongly that key information there will assist us
with River's future, both technical and philosophical.
I've listened to the speeches in JCM more than once and still find
the information relevant.
There is too much opportunity and potential left for us with River
to let it die, if anything I think that the shortcomings of Java
have held us back to some degree, namely classpath, jar, the
complexity of security and the challenges of the internet. It'll be
interesting to watch how the OSGi and project Jigsaw evolve and see
if there's potential to use relevant pieces.
I've been thinking that rather than transferring whole jar files via
classfile servers, versioned classes, individually compressed on
demand (using caching with deflate compression and nio byte buffers)
to speed up code transfer over slow networks (provided your not
using whole package imports) and provide greater flexibility if
required. Furthermore, individual classes can evolve and exist
alongside legacy copies, if they can be versioned. There are other
issues in doing so, however, such as, when to evolve a class with a
new version, much like the versioning issues with serialization.
That would of course require OpenJDK7.
But first we must make it easier to participate, I think that the
current focus on changes to the build and testing structures will
help us grow, we must continue to do so while preserving the past in
order not to forget important lessons or repeat old mistakes in the
future.
N.B. Thank you very much Jim Waldo, for going to the trouble of
retrieving, getting approval for and uploading very relevant
documentation. And for inspiration...
Cheers,
Peter.
Greg Trasuk wrote:
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 14:42, Sam Chance wrote:
Wow! This whole topic is scary. I know factually Jini is still
relevant in certain places. I don't want it to die, personally.
Is there an easy way for individuals (like me) to acquire the
content
on jini.org?
Can we set up a fund or account using Paypal? This would allow us to
individually contribute, as long as a trusted agent disperses
funds to
pay the bills.
Also, can we change the wiki model to a controlled access site?
Casual
visitors get read-only rights. Others may apply for write-enabled
accounts.
I am willing to pay the bills as the trusted agent, if the group is
willing to allow me.
Just don't let it die.
Sam
I agree. Don't let it die, and I've always thought that Jini should
have an identity apart from River. I very much like the idea of a
Paypal donation page. Does anyone know how to do that? If there
were
sufficient funds donated, it would be great to setup some sort of
entity
to hold the Jini trademarks and own the domain.
Cheers,
Greg.
On 6/25/09, Jeff Ramsdale <[email protected]> wrote:
jini.org is currently hosted at Dreamhost and is run on Mediawiki.
I'm open to whatever the community decides. It's been frustrating
combating
the spammers while trying to keep jini.org as open as possible
(per wiki
culture). I'd be more defensive of keeping the site if the
community had
taken greater ownership of it, but a lot of the content is stuff
I copied
from the previous site (like the Jini specs and all the content
from Jini
Community Meetings). I'd really hate to lose the JCM stuff, in
particular.
-jeff
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Rick Innis <[email protected]> wrote:
This is just a heads up that we have to decide if we want to
keep Jini.org around. The site has been around since the
inception of the Jini Community in 1999, and has gone through
a number of transformations over the years. It's current state
is that it is wiki-based and hosted by Dreamhost.
I use Dreamhost for my own hosting, and I'd be happy to add the
jini.orgsite to that.
We have an outstanding bill for $239.40 that is due by July 8th
to keep
the site going.
I' also happy to chip in towards this.
We can either:
- try to consolidate and move the content to Apache River,
- figure out how to fund the Jini.org site, or
- just let the site (and content) expire.
I agree with Patrick that the domain name should be kept up. I
think
migrating the useful content to the Apache River project is
probably a
good
idea, and eventually redirecting jini.org there - it makes it
clear that
there's one source for the project.
R.
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