On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 05:55:50PM -0700, Brian Chrisman wrote:
> Ben Johnson wrote:
> 
> >Hey.
> >
> >I had a question during the ssh talk given a while ago.  (2-3 months?)
> >Something like...  "what's the alternative to a password-less ssh key
> >for automating multi-host maintenance?"  It never quite got answered.
> >The issue is coming up for me again today.  :)  What do I do?
> >
> > 
> >
> Do you mean 'passphrase-less'?
> You can use the ssh agent stuff to hold yer decrypted ssh keys in 
> memory, and provide them as necessary for authentication... that way you 
> only have to put in yer pass phrase once per session (which, I think, 
> can be defined multiple ways).

word...  phrase...  one has spaces in it...  ;)

I'm familiar with ssh-agent.  somewhat anyway.  I typically login at a
virtual terminal, run 'exec ssh-agent bash' then 'exec startx'.  this
little bit of experience leads me to believe I have a couple problems:

- using ssh-agent doesn't free me from having to enter a passphrase,
  which is problematic as I can't be sure that I'll available when the
  system reboots.

- I'm wanting to run these scripts that do that connecting from cron
  jobs.  I thought ssh-agent can only be used by children of ssh-agent.
  isn't that right?  would I have to run crond as a child of ssh-agent?

- is it possible to start an ssh-agent process on a server then let it
  run unattended and without leaving it attached to some tty?


The only problem I have with a passphrase-less ssh key is the chance
that someone will crack the machine, get a hold of the key and use it to
crack into more machines.  The security issue is why I only create them
on well protected machines.  I think I prefer this problem/risk to what
I understand, so far, is the alternative.

- Ben


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