I found some documentation on this.  Check out
www.mepis.org/files/MEPIS%20User%20Guide.pdf page 52.

Jennifer


On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 14:20 -0800, Scott Fritzinger wrote:

> Dennis, 
> 
> That's exactly it. That the really nice thing about the move to virtual 
> file system (VFS) in file managers like Konqueror, Nautilus, EFM, etc... 
> They can do a LOT more than just showing you files. 
> 
> For the audio cds, dragging and dropping does the conversion on the fly. 
> What is happening behind the scenes is that the filemanager reads a 
> chunk of raw audio data, converts it to the destination format (mp3, 
> ogg/vorbis, ogg/flac, wav, etc...) and spits out the converted chunk to 
> wherever you drop it. So, now instead of having a specialty ripper 
> (grip, CDex on windows, etc...), you just copy files from the virtual cd 
> to a folder :-) 
> 
> This feature has been in KDE since version 2.x I THINK, but required the 
> appropriate libraries to be installed and for the Audio CD VFS module to 
> be loaded; sometimes it wouldn't show up. In 3.x, it is on by default 
> and most distributions include/install the appropriate libraries by 
> default. 
> 
> There are a lot of REALLY nice VFS modules as well. 
> 
> [shameless self promotion] 
> The camera VFS module will let you access your digital cameras via 
> gPhoto (my old project) and drag/drop out the files. This may not seem 
> like much now because most cameras show up as hard drives (via USB Mass 
> Storage), but anyone who's ever owned a non-USB Mass Storage camera who 
> had to use a special program to grab photos can appreciate it :-) 
> [/shameless self promotion] 
> 
> There are others for Samba, SSH/SFTP, FTP, WebDAV (not sure if that one 
> is "out"), etc... 
> 
> -Scott 
> 
> Dennis Bagley wrote: 
> > Scott as a matter of fact, yes - I playing around with KDE (again) and 
> > Konqueror is popping up 
> > when I load the CD. 
> > 
> > So you are saying: these folders and files do not really exist, the file 
> > manager and the OS are displaying what 
> > could be available under open source and if I do a drag & drop style 
> > copy, I'm actually doing the ripping 
> > and converting on the fly? 
> > 
> > Whoa!!! - If that's the case - it's pretty damn sophisticated! 
> > 
> > And I guess somewhat new??? 
> > 
> > 
> > Dennis 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 13:29 -0800, Scott Fritzinger wrote: 
> > 
> >>Dennis, 
> >> 
> >>I'm assuming you are accessing these through a GUI file browser 
> >>(Konqueror perhaps?). 
> >> 
> >>If so, then that is one of the REALLY cool things that is built-into the 
> >>file manager. It is a virtual filesystem that presents the audio tracks 
> >>in several different formats for you to copy. On the CD, there is only 
> >>the regular raw audio data. The file manager adds in the extra 
> >>folders/files as a convenience (big one!) so that ripping is actually 
> >>just dragging and dropping those virtual files. 
> >> 
> >>-Scott 
> >> 
> >>Dennis Bagley wrote: 
> >>> This may sound like a newbie thing.....and maybe it is..... 
> >>> 
> >>> In Linux (or at least Ubuntu Breezy), I can put an audio CD in and a 
> >>> file browser window opens showing directories 
> >>> on the CD that I have never seen via a Windows box. 
> >>> 
> >>> I honestly do not remember seeing all those extra files and folders 
> >>> before. Possible that since I 
> >>> was not expecting them I just didn't pay attention - but I honestly do 
> >>> not recall seeing them before. 
> >>> 
> >>> Those directories include all the songs from the CD in additional 
> >>> compressed formats, including: 
> >>> OGG, FLAC etc. And you can execute the files and they play just fine. 
> >>> They can be copied etc. 
> >>> 
> >>> That says to me that most CD ripping probably isn't really necessary - 
> >>> you can just copy these other files to your 
> >>> hard drive. 
> >>> 
> >>> I'm guessing a bunch of you already knew this - if not, I'm wondering 
> >>> why. 
> >>> 
> >>> I have even found these extra folders on CDs from 10 years ago! I have 
> >>> older CDs I intend to check as well. 
> >>> 
> >>> I have tried to see the extra stuff on a Windows box with -0- luck. I'm 
> >>> wondering if that is by design or if there 
> >>> is some kind of odd formatting. 
> >>> 
> >>> Not having access to an Apple box - I do not know if the files display 
> >>> under OS X. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Comments? Insights? Boot to the Head? 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Dennis 





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