Something to look into is EJB 3/JSR-220 support. This
new persistence framework does not require an EJB
container. 

https://glassfish.dev.java.net/javaee5/persistence/persistence-example.html#Using_in_Java_SE

Aaron



--- David M Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Jan 25, 2006, at 12:41 PM, Jeff Blattman wrote:
> > i see some work going on to port from hibernate to
> jdo. sorry, i am  
> > new here and i don't know the status / rational
> for that, but i'd  
> > like to add my comments.
> >
> > i have experience using jdo, and jpox in
> particular, with a  
> > commercial product. first, you probably already
> know this, but jdo  
> > is dead (from a spec perspective anyway). it will
> be phased out in  
> > favor of ejb3 persistence. maybe that transition
> will be graceful,  
> > maybe not. i see jpox has ejb3 on their roadmap,
> but not sure what  
> > that means.
> >
> > second, jpox has really, very atrocious
> performance issues. the  
> > jpox folks admit that performance is a low
> priority, as they are an  
> > ri. if someone wants the details on this, i can
> dig them up.
> 
> We have not committed to JDO or JPOX. If it's got
> atrocious  
> performance issues, then we won't use it. If it
> works well, then  
> that's a different story. We're looking at it
> because it appears that  
> Apache will not allow us to have any LGPL
> dependencies. We may have  
> to look at EJB3 or stick with Hibernate (and
> therefore abort  
> incubation), it's up to the Roller project members
> to decide.
> 
> - Dave
> 
> 
> 

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